150,000 Americans Dead
07-27-2020, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
Well, it's not even August 1st, and we're here. To be fair, this has exceeded all of our expectations with how much death this virus can bring. And we're not even close to being done yet. The fall and winter are going to be absolutely devastating without a major course correction.
It's a trip to go back to when the outbreak first started in March and April to read the predictions of where this was going. I'm curious if some of those early deniers have evolved their positions. I would guess not. Here's Speed Select's post from two days ago:
So obviously he hasn't evolved from his position from months ago. One thing he's absolutely wrong on. It's not survival of the fittest, it's survival of the richest. The rich will have the resources to remove themselves from high risk scenarios where the poor will not. The rich will have access to high quality healthcare to keep them breathing, and the poor will not.
This natural selection nonsense is complete and utter propaganda. We aren't living on the plains of the Sub-Saharan savanna. We have a very unequal society which completely takes Darwinism off the table.
So coldly in return, Speed Select, I say take your economic hardship like a man. Your poor excuses for the deaths of hundreds of thousands are revolting and prejudicial at its core.
Those who prioritize the economy over health will get neither.
It's a trip to go back to when the outbreak first started in March and April to read the predictions of where this was going. I'm curious if some of those early deniers have evolved their positions. I would guess not. Here's Speed Select's post from two days ago:
So obviously he hasn't evolved from his position from months ago. One thing he's absolutely wrong on. It's not survival of the fittest, it's survival of the richest. The rich will have the resources to remove themselves from high risk scenarios where the poor will not. The rich will have access to high quality healthcare to keep them breathing, and the poor will not.
This natural selection nonsense is complete and utter propaganda. We aren't living on the plains of the Sub-Saharan savanna. We have a very unequal society which completely takes Darwinism off the table.
So coldly in return, Speed Select, I say take your economic hardship like a man. Your poor excuses for the deaths of hundreds of thousands are revolting and prejudicial at its core.
Those who prioritize the economy over health will get neither.
https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-...n-deaths-in-us
07-27-2020, 06:20 PM
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750,000 Americans Dead
750,000 Americans dead.
Every month. Year in and year out.
From a wide variety of causes. Just to put the numbers into perspective
Hysteria works best on people who are impressed by numbers which look big but aren't really that big in the grand scheme.
Every month. Year in and year out.
From a wide variety of causes. Just to put the numbers into perspective
Hysteria works best on people who are impressed by numbers which look big but aren't really that big in the grand scheme.
07-27-2020, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
750,000 Americans dead.
Every month. Year in and year out.
From a wide variety of causes. Just to put the numbers into perspective
Hysteria works best on people who are impressed by numbers which look big but aren't really that big in the grand scheme.
Every month. Year in and year out.
From a wide variety of causes. Just to put the numbers into perspective
Hysteria works best on people who are impressed by numbers which look big but aren't really that big in the grand scheme.
07-27-2020, 06:43 PM
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What are you doing to save the other 2,850,000 people that are going to die in this country this year?
And whre did you get this "To be fair, this has exceeded all of our expectations with how much death this virus can bring." We were listening to the experts telling use it would be over 2 million. Very happy they were wrong!
And whre did you get this "To be fair, this has exceeded all of our expectations with how much death this virus can bring." We were listening to the experts telling use it would be over 2 million. Very happy they were wrong!
07-27-2020, 06:52 PM
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As someone that lost someone close to me from COVID... Who cares!?!
Stop spreading this fear BS on something that you have a 99% chance of surviving if your under 70, (probably higher than that because way more people have had this than have tested positive).
Wear a mask, social distance, and if you have pre-existing conditions, or are afraid? Then don't go out.
Open everything up already.
Stop spreading this fear BS on something that you have a 99% chance of surviving if your under 70, (probably higher than that because way more people have had this than have tested positive).
Wear a mask, social distance, and if you have pre-existing conditions, or are afraid? Then don't go out.
Open everything up already.
07-27-2020, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio
What are you doing to save the other 2,850,000 people that are going to die in this country this year?
And whre did you get this "To be fair, this has exceeded all of our expectations with how much death this virus can bring." We were listening to the experts telling use it would be over 2 million. Very happy they were wrong!
And whre did you get this "To be fair, this has exceeded all of our expectations with how much death this virus can bring." We were listening to the experts telling use it would be over 2 million. Very happy they were wrong!
1. You're cherry-picking one study, from the United Kingdom, about their predictions over how many infections and fatalities would occur if the virus was left uncontrolled. You're welcome to read it yourself here: https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf
1a. Here's another prediction from March 6. The American Hospital Association had a conference about COVID-19, and someone leaked a slide. They predicted 480,000 US deaths. Which after 4 months, we're 32% of the way there with the winter still ahead of us. By the time we're done with COVID-19 next year, this could very well be an accurate prediction.
In either case, predictive models are just that. Models. And trying to create a model based around human behavior is like trying to predict lotto numbers. Also they were doing it in the blind because we knew next to nothing about SARS-CoV-2 in early March.
2. Comparing a devastating number that didn't come true to a tragic one that did come true doesn't make it any less tragic. 150,000 additional deaths this year so far due to gross negligence and incompetence. Pretty sad.
I've come to the conclusion that there is no level of death that will change your minds about the severity of this disease. As the death counts mount, your heels will dig in.
We hit a milestone today. A terrible one. There will be more to come.
07-27-2020, 07:11 PM
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Hey WutFace - SHUT YOUR PIE HOLE! You are a poster child for what is wrong with this country right now!
Watch and listen to these STATS and FACTS from REAL DOCTORS. I'm guessing you won't learn anything and keep pushing your fear mongering though...as we all know, it is for political reasons until Nov 3rd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1CitJWVngM
Watch and listen to these STATS and FACTS from REAL DOCTORS. I'm guessing you won't learn anything and keep pushing your fear mongering though...as we all know, it is for political reasons until Nov 3rd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1CitJWVngM
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