Seneca Pilot

Currently true but the Republicans picked up more state legislatures in this election and it is the new number that will instruct the house members how to vote. Also states that cannot reach a decision would have to abstain so the number is somewhat fluid. I have seen estimates between 28 and 31 states voting Trump if it goes to the house.

Ronaldo

It looks like they need a quorum of 2/3 of the states to proceed in that process. The Republicans can’t reach that 2/3 without Democrat states defecting.

In either case, I have a decent amount of confidence the adults in these legislatures won’t burn down the country and start a civil war just to force through a guy that lost by 5.2M votes. In 2024 the problem may be resolved by the bi-partisan National Popular Vote Compact which is only 73 electoral votes away from going into effect.

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/written-explanation

Duffman

That's what I'm thinking. Theoretically if you can do all your banking by phone, why can't you also vote if it's corroborated with dual identification, a fingerprint, and a credit card for verification?

If you wanted it to be completely transparent you could show how literally every household voted so people could call "BS" if the warehouse down the street had 20 votes for someone. However, privacy. Maybe instead of hiring a million ballot counters you could hire people to fact-check the data and keep it private.

Also, the whole system could theoretically be crashed, but I'm sure a secure server farm with by-the-minute backups would solve that, along with people being able to vote any time over the two weeks preceding the election.

However, "didn't vote" would've won every election in modern times, so I'd imagine Congress would block this because what's good for America isn't good for them personally, and they get to vote on it.

Mesabah

Nah, that's not the case, and if there is gridlock, Pelosi becomes President. The strategy of Trump appears not to even definitively prove fraud, as his legal team has been forced to leave PA due to threats alone. If the left doesn't let this process play out, they could hand the election to him anyway, that's what it looks like he is counting on.

velosnow

Left PA due to threats? How about they have no case. Period. End of story.

Ronaldo

The part of the process that is playing out in courts is proceeding well. Many Trump lawsuits already defeated, dismissed or both. In Michigan they filed against the wrong official and missed the deadline so they had to go to Federal Court. They probably mailed that one in from Four Seasons Landscaping.

Duffman

Out of curiosity, aside from media sensationalizing and Dems ripping on him, what has the left done to infringe on his freedom? They have a right to claim it was a fair election and show their side the same way he has a right to claim fraud and show his side. It's not a one-way street.

If there is no evidence, then there is no evidence, and the longer this goes on, the more brutal the media will be. His approval never went over 50%, making him one of the most unpopular presidents of the modern era:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/
Although his followers loved him, most people did not and his critics downright hated him. The longer he drags this on without significant evidence the more the media will capitalize on the fact that he's an emotional guy with near constant outbursts that millions of people find really really funny, but also scary, because they know he'll stop at nothing to win, including exploiting obscure loopholes that no one has ever thought of, with no regard to the civil unrest it might cause.

Mesabah

Yeah, but the PA state legislature is GOP, if the process doesn't play out, they won't seat the electors, and Trump still wins. Trump isn't trying to reach 270, he just needs to keep Biden below 270, and right now, the left is the biggest asset in that happening.

velosnow

Typical Trump indeed, if you can't win legitimately find your loopholes and attempt to game the system. Funny thing is how accepting the MAGA crowd is of all this, if the tides were turned and Hillary was doing the same you'd have bros with guns at every state capitol right now and we'd be on the brink.

Shenanigans like this will only push the National Popular Vote farther along, if there are any moderate Republicans left now is really the time to step up.

Mesabah

Both sides, including the media, are making big money over this, so no one is going to step up.