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Old 11-25-2020, 12:05 PM   #31  
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Funny thing about governments, is that they will never know if that needle actually went into your arm or not. The more you know. 😉
Depends on how many people try to claim vaccination that didn't really happen. If it's enough to keep the pandemic alive, there will be some sort of accountability.
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Depends on how many people try to claim vaccination that didn't really happen. If it's enough to keep the pandemic alive, there will be some sort of accountability.
With electronic records, for all their failings, and a high profile vaccination program for Cat 1 & 2 individuals; I think it would be hard to fake it. For Cat 3, esp 4 individuals when the quacks figure out the “holes in the cheese” it might be different. My last physical, unprompted, the doc said to me, “my, you do have a lot of vaccinations”. It’s on the screen free to view.

Cat 1 are pretty much trapped, so they’ll get it at work or LTC. Cat 2 infrastructure people could get it at work (:30 of pay) or show data base proof from doctor.
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Depends on how many people try to claim vaccination that didn't really happen. If it's enough to keep the pandemic alive, there will be some sort of accountability.
Most people smart enough to avoid taking the vaccine, are smart enough to know not to ever get tested.
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Old 11-25-2020, 12:45 PM   #34  
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My last physical, unprompted, the doc said to me, “my, you do have a lot of vaccinations”
In fact, if you have ALL your recommended immunizations you are probably one in a million. Little wonder he was impressed.


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Key Findings

  • Compared with 2015 NHIS estimates, modest increases in vaccination coverage occurred for some vaccines and age groups but coverage decreased for one vaccine overall and in two age groups in one racial/ethnic category. Apart from these changes, vaccination coverage among adults in 2016 was similar to estimates from 2015.
    • Overall influenza vaccination decreased 3.1 percentage points to 70.4% among adults ≥65 years, and decreased among whites in all age groups except among adults 19-49 years (range: minus 2.2 – minus 3.5 percentage points).
    • Pneumococcal vaccination increased 3.3 percentage points to 66.9% among adults ≥ 65 years.
    • Vaccination of adults 19 years and older with tetanus toxoid, reduced diphtheria toxoid, and acellular pertussis vaccine (Tdap) increased by 3.4 percentage points to 26.6% overall.
    • Hepatitis A vaccination increased by 14.8 percentage points to 23.7% among adults 19-49 years with chronic liver conditions.
    • Herpes Zoster (Shingles) vaccination increased 2.8 percentage points to 33.4% among adults 60 years and older and increased 3.1 percentage points to 37.4% among adults 65 years and older.
    • HPV vaccination (at least one dose) among females and males 19-26 years who had not received HPV vaccination prior to 19 years was 8.6% and 2.7%, respectively.
    • Coverage did not change for other vaccinations in other age groups and many adults remained unvaccinated with recommended vaccines.
  • Racial and ethnic vaccination differences persisted for all vaccinations in this report with generally lower coverage for most vaccinations among non-Hispanic black, Hispanic, and non-Hispanic Asian adults compared with white adults. Vaccination differences widened for Tdap (blacks, all age groups) and herpes zoster (Asians, ≥65 years) (due primarily to increases among whites).

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  • Many adults in the United States have not received recommended vaccinations and racial/ethnic vaccination differences persist.
  • Influenza vaccination decreased among whites and overall among adults ≥65 years.
  • While modest gains occurred in vaccination coverage for pneumococcal, Tdap, hepatitis A (persons with chronic liver conditions), herpes zoster, and HPV vaccination, coverage did not improve for other vaccinations and many adults remained unvaccinated with recommended vaccines.
    • Among adults 65 years and older:
      • Over one-third did not report pneumococcal or Td vaccination.
      • Approximately 4 out of 5 did not report Tdap vaccination.
      • Nearly two-thirds did not report a herpes zoster vaccination.
    • Among adults younger than 65 years with indications for pneumococcal vaccination, approximately 3 out of 4 did not report ever having been vaccinated.
    • Among adults 19-26 years recommended for HPV catch-up vaccination:
      • About 11 out of 12 females and 32 out of 33 males not vaccinated before 19 years did not report HPV vaccination (at least one dose).
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Yup, all those plus Hep A and B, Yellow Fever, Typhoid, there is a meningitis shot, a slew of anthrax, 38 or so annual flu shots. I used a travel clinic and going to Africa, India and the like, visits with shots was a regular deal.
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WHO vaccination records (the yellow card) has been standard stuff for decades. I have a drawer full of them with old passports. You needed it for yellow fever, at a minimum. Once arrived in ZAR, one passenger didn’t have the record for yellow fever, we’d tech’s at Libreville for 45 minutes. Gabon is endemic, took a lot of convincing to avoid a visit to the hospital.
Yep, the yellow card is in my folder with my passport. As Karl Malden used to say for American Express Traveler’s Checks, “Don’t leave home without them.”

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Yup, all those plus Hep A and B, Yellow Fever, Typhoid, there is a meningitis shot, a slew of anthrax, 38 or so annual flu shots. I used a travel clinic and going to Africa, India and the like, visits with shots was a regular deal.
I'm pretty sure my dance card is completely full, including full anthrax series (my unit was tagged for OIF-I pointy end). I probably have lapsed boosters on some of the more exotic ones.
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Your vax-passport will simply be your government registered keypair identity which doubles as a fiat usdcoin wallet. It will also be full of untransferable NFT demerits and social infractions that factor into every transaction you make. Nothing can stop what's coming.
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Your vax-passport will simply be your government registered keypair identity which doubles as a fiat usdcoin wallet. It will also be full of untransferable NFT demerits and social infractions that factor into every transaction you make. Nothing can stop what's coming.
Or a piece of paper in your passport. But hey. Who can tell the difference, right?
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