Chinese Now Paying $750,000
12-31-2017, 05:38 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman
For the few that can’t hold WB captain their last few years, is this possibly a good deal to maximize earnings before retirement?
2) Career ending medical exam
3) Sub standard training
4) Rostering that will result in burnout quickly
5) Tax implications
That's the short list, it actually is much longer. And don't forget, this is all taking place in a communist country.
12-31-2017, 10:18 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by TommyDevito
1) Endless Chinese beauracracy
2) Career ending medical exam
3) Sub standard training
4) Rostering that will result in burnout quickly
5) Tax implications
That's the short list, it actually is much longer. And don't forget, this is all taking place in a communist country.
2) Career ending medical exam
3) Sub standard training
4) Rostering that will result in burnout quickly
5) Tax implications
That's the short list, it actually is much longer. And don't forget, this is all taking place in a communist country.
01-01-2018, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TommyDevito
You need to understand Chinese business practice and ethics (or lack thereof).
In China an employment contract only protects the employer, who is free to make changes at will with or without the employee's permission. Negotiate anything you want, it doesn't mean they will honor it.
Employee's roles are to make the employer money. Employees should be grateful that the employer hired them and lets them continue to have a job. And the boss is always right, never ever question them.
And in Asian culture, the teaching technique is through fear and intimidation. They believe if you ridicule and punish, the student will learn. Remember that when you go to training. The Instructor is a god walking the earth and shall be treated as such.
Oh, and if you don't like any of this? Good luck in taking them to court over your contract. Foreigners have less rights than do nationals.
In China an employment contract only protects the employer, who is free to make changes at will with or without the employee's permission. Negotiate anything you want, it doesn't mean they will honor it.
Employee's roles are to make the employer money. Employees should be grateful that the employer hired them and lets them continue to have a job. And the boss is always right, never ever question them.
And in Asian culture, the teaching technique is through fear and intimidation. They believe if you ridicule and punish, the student will learn. Remember that when you go to training. The Instructor is a god walking the earth and shall be treated as such.
Oh, and if you don't like any of this? Good luck in taking them to court over your contract. Foreigners have less rights than do nationals.
01-02-2018, 09:21 AM
#38
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Only problem with this is they need you to be a typed captain already. The only widebody capts who would even consider this would be atlas/abx/southern/omni guys who could make 3 times what they do now. Nobody will leave any of the majors here to do that no matter what the pay is. Unless of course there are furloughs or a recession. I've often thought about going there from the regionals after a year or 2 and banking some serious coin while I wait for the legacies to call, but the pay has gone up on this side too.
01-02-2018, 03:04 PM
#39
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I would recommend anyone thinking of flying in China read this:
Flying Upside Down.
I'm not sure how old it is, but I suspect little has changed since it was wriiten.
Flying Upside Down.
I'm not sure how old it is, but I suspect little has changed since it was wriiten.
01-02-2018, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Used2BeFlyer
I would recommend anyone thinking of flying in China read this:
Flying Upside Down.
I'm not sure how old it is, but I suspect little has changed since it was wriiten.
Flying Upside Down.
I'm not sure how old it is, but I suspect little has changed since it was wriiten.
Very accurate.
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