JeepFlyer

18 more (to be precise) just added yesterday. I'm a month out from making my decision so I'm watching the class drops very closely. My fear is the rapid climb in seniority through the 88 ranks is going to quickly turn into a complete standstill.

FL370esq

Just like the ol' Capital Gains accounting method...LIFO (Last In First Out) will be alive and well in the ATL M88B category at some point in the not too distant future. 😁

JamesBond

How do you define complete standstill?

3 green

Next fall and winter would be a good time to bid reserve if you don't want to fly..You would probably have to go to the sim to stay current.

waldo135

[QUOTE=80ktsClamp;2573718]Well, the displaced 88As will go wherever 12323 seniority and more junior can hold... discuss

I bet there are a surprising number of guys that will VD to beat the rush. Things could get very interesting much further up the seniority list.

JeepFlyer

If I'm wrong please educate me. I'm definitely no expert on how all this works and I'm looking for any help making the decision.

My thought process is this... get assigned to the 88 as one of the last large drops to new hires and then the current rate of flow gets turned off shortly thereafter. Essentially going from 10+ people being added below you every week or two on the seniority list and then nothing for the foreseeable future.

If this were the case could a VD be used to override a seatlock or does it have to be a MD?

Han Solo

If you're talking about starting a new hire class some time in the near future, VD won't be an option since you'll be firmly inside the group being MD'd.

Erdude32

Any new hires assigned to the 88 between now & July can escape it by bidding the CS100. New category...no seat lock.

JamesBond

They are rearranging the deckchairs. That flying is going somewhere, and since DAL is focusing a lot on the domestic market, there will be bids to take up the slack. Yeah, you might find yourself a little more junior for a short period of time on a more senior piece of equipment, but remember we are hiring 1000 guys a year. At worst it is a slowdown. Say the best seat you can hold is the 320. When all the 88s are parked, where will all the newhires be going? They have to go somewhere, and they all cannot go to the 717. When the C series comes online that is even better, but it might create a little more slowdown if you are not in a senior position on the 320. But guess what... you can bid the C series even if you are frozen on the 320 because it is a new category. That is risky though because it could very well go senior. Point is to reiterate is tha this is nothing more than a little slowdown. Probably the worst thing is having to go thru Va Ave again.



A complete standstill is when you are X from the bottom of the entire list and there is no hiring for years.

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80ktsClamp

Remember that they can only exercise the choices that the MD guy they are replacing can go to... e.g. whatever 12323 and junior can hold are the only places they can VD to.

Basically, they cannot go to any CA seat and FO on nothing larger than the ER.