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#25
Only scenario I see morale getting low is AA and UAL getting significant gains in their contract surpassing Delta Pilot PWA value then almost simultaneously a recession hits dropping PS below 10%.
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#27
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We are a long long time away from morale getting low. Overall, we have an excellent World Class Contract that is the envy of the industry. Morale at Delta currently is very high. Just 3 years ago TA2 passed by the highest margin in Delta history. As long as PS keeps coming in 10%+ chunks folks will be happy.
PS goes a really long way to making people happy, particularly when it's new. But it is starting to get baked in, and I know I don't want to work decades more on the trajectory we're on WRT productivity gives and efficiencies. Again, I could very much be in the minority... but money ain't everything for me or my family. I won't publicly say the minimum hourly pay raise I'm willing to accept in the next contract for fear of being hunted and slaughtered... but pay won't do as much for my morale as work rules, scope and rig enhancement.
I see and hear what crappy trips and enhanced productivity are doing to the age 55+ NB captains I fly with (who are very content with their pay), and I don't want to be living and working under anything worse in my later years.
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Want to know how I know you're wrong? Same reason I know I'm right...I don't. I only fly with a very small percentage of the seniority list (narrow body), with dozens of friends of similar seniority to mine. What I hear isn't anything like what you describe, but if you tell me how you have your finger on the pulse, I'm open to convincing data that isn't just your anecdotal evidence. I could be very wrong - tell me how you know.
PS goes a really long way to making people happy, particularly when it's new. But it is starting to get baked in, and I know I don't want to work decades more on the trajectory we're on WRT productivity gives and efficiencies. Again, I could very much be in the minority... but money ain't everything for me or my family. I won't publicly say the minimum hourly pay raise I'm willing to accept in the next contract for fear of being hunted and slaughtered... but pay won't do as much for my morale as work rules, scope and rig enhancement.
I see and hear what crappy trips and enhanced productivity are doing to the age 55+ NB captains I fly with (who are very content with their pay), and I don't want to be living and working under anything worse in my later years.
PS goes a really long way to making people happy, particularly when it's new. But it is starting to get baked in, and I know I don't want to work decades more on the trajectory we're on WRT productivity gives and efficiencies. Again, I could very much be in the minority... but money ain't everything for me or my family. I won't publicly say the minimum hourly pay raise I'm willing to accept in the next contract for fear of being hunted and slaughtered... but pay won't do as much for my morale as work rules, scope and rig enhancement.
I see and hear what crappy trips and enhanced productivity are doing to the age 55+ NB captains I fly with (who are very content with their pay), and I don't want to be living and working under anything worse in my later years.
#29
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From: Power top
Otherside of the coin, Delta enjoys passengers willing to pay a premium. Why screw up a good situation? Not hard to please 51%, it's pretty simple. $$$. And management is printing it.
#30
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From: A330 First Officer
I guess you weren’t here back then. The 49ers were people posting people’s schedules and otherwise harassing people for flying GS. The company actually took the union to court because the pilot group was not flying the historical percentage of overtime that we normally did and got it labeled a job action and the court put an injunction on the union.
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