I think management....including our current ceo went to federal court and got 49 'John Doe' warrants under seal.

Then they strategically chose their targets.

Cant disrupt status quo in amendment process. Not that any of the 49 were.

What mgmt did was despicable.

 

Didn't UAL in 2000ish also not fly historic amounts of OT? An injunction can't force random people to pick up random trips at whatever random times to force reverse engineer future results to be identical to past results; that's not even possible.

Some airlines have gotten maintenence/write up injunctions against their pilots in the past. The result of something like that is "no illegal write ups" which is always the case anyway. When airlines attempt to hold the pilot group at large, or individual pilots in particular, to the "historic number of write ups" that is 100% unenforceable on its own.

There cannot be an organized effort against permissable OT or for frivolous write ups etc, nor can there be an organized or individual effort of intimidation regarding it. But no order can force a large pilot group or individual pilots to an OT quota for OT that is optional per pick up. Anyone claiming that's what happened doesn't know what they're talking about.

 

They cant force you to work ot.

But if the status quo is altered it provides basis for corporation to seek damages in court from the cba.

 

They may not be able to force you to work OT......but they sure can make it expensive not to. 😁

We probably shouldn't fly OT outside of Section 6 so we have a low statistical basis during the impisition of Section 6 status quo. 🤔😁

 

Any "global solution" would forgo damages.

 

Yes, theoretically it does. But there is way more to it than that. Just like the "historic number of write ups" injunctions some airlines have gotten, there is no direct way for that to ever be enforceable, as long as the actual write ups are for legitimate discrepancies. There could be triple the number compared to a past time period and if they're all legitimate, then they're all legitimate. Period. Could you imagine the courts coming down on a pilot because they averaged 10 write ups in a period and then wrote up 15 in a similar period? So after 10 they can't write up anything anymore? That's just not how it works.

Should airlines be frozen to a historical numbers of reroutes? On time AE conversions? Historical number of MEL's? Historical number of OE trip drops?

 

Ya...im not gona say anymore on this as i do not want to be the target of a future Dohn Joe warrant.

 

When is the snapshot taken as the basis for historical precedent in these cases? The day before Section 6 starts? Is it a 12 month look back? Several years?



GP

 

Whatever "data" the company brings to "prove" it has been harmed. My guess is it is massaged for the best optics.

 

Hopefully they don’t look at NYC320A. Out of base GS #4 was awarded yesterday. Only half way though the month!


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