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Old 08-25-2019, 06:29 AM
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Any word on a BOS pilot base given the growth announcements?

***didn't see any other info on here about it. If I missed it, my bad.
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Don’t tease me, I’d be at delta so fast if they’d have me if BOS becomes a pilot base
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It was planned as one of the three virtual bases but the union shot it down.
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Have no idea why they shut it down before. Plenty of traffic.
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Don’t tease me, I’d be at delta so fast if they’d have me if BOS becomes a pilot base
You’re looking for a false sense of security if you’re making this decision by a base....
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It was planned as one of the three virtual bases but the union shot it down.
Glad they did. Good move.
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Old 08-25-2019, 08:39 AM
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Glad they did. Good move.
It was a good move? Seemed pretty arbitrary to me. ALPA agreed to VBs but then pulled it just before it was even implemented. Seems kinda bad-faith to me, especially when they extracted nothing from pulling it down.

Smart union leadership would have let it implode on its own thereby letting the company absorb the failure....or at least let it run one month before pulling it down.
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It was a good move? Seemed pretty arbitrary to me. ALPA agreed to VBs but then pulled it just before it was even implemented. Seems kinda bad-faith to me, especially when they extracted nothing from pulling it down.

Smart union leadership would have let it implode on its own thereby letting the company absorb the failure....or at least let it run one month before pulling it down.
Virtual bases have not ever worked for any airline. Historical fact. Virtual bases cost jobs. Fact. Virtual bases deteriorate trip/rotation quality from full blown pilot bases. Fact.

I flew for an airline that had virtual bases. I have first hand experience.

Bad faith huh? Talk to me about our 25+ scope violations and then when you can justify that come talk to me about bad faith.
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The union let the VB provision stand well past the trial period in the contract, during which period the company did nothing to implement it.

Then, when they did, they did so with ZERO communication with the union. The VB provision implementation was supposed to involve both parties.

And, the contract said that either side could simply pull it down if it wasn’t working well. Given the fact that it wasn’t utilized within the original test period, and when it finally was, it was done so without the requisite communication, it clearly wasn’t working out well.

So, IAW the contract, the union terminated it. There was no bad faith there at all.
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