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#111
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,370
The problem with commuting on reserve is that for some the ability to live within the 12 hour leash and arrive rested for a trip is a fairytale. That forces pilots who live within the rule to pick up the slack for those who don’t. Case in point, west coast guy who comes to NYC to sit his long calls. Expects a noon release to go home but gets tagged to ferry one aircraft to ATL, sit for 4 hours to ferry another aircraft back up to NY. Trip should have gone to another pilot who could not make the 7am signin.
I've commuted on reserve here, but I tend to just stay in a crash pad until time off... but our reserve rules and time off aren't all that bad even if you DO commute because you don't tend to work many different days than a lienholder. Sure, if you live in base you can take advantage and have almost days off... but even commuters can be home a reasonable amount of time without having to commute on the leash.
By this logic anyone who lives in base who doesn't bid reserve must be making a "poor choice" since it means less time at home in most categories.
#112
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,544
The problem with commuting on reserve is that for some the ability to live within the 12 hour leash and arrive rested for a trip is a fairytale. That forces pilots who live within the rule to pick up the slack for those who don’t. Case in point, west coast guy who comes to NYC to sit his long calls. Expects a noon release to go home but gets tagged to ferry one aircraft to ATL, sit for 4 hours to ferry another aircraft back up to NY. Trip should have gone to another pilot who could not make the 7am signin.
#113
It is what it is. I wonder if the poor block holder (regular pilot) who is rerouted has a right to complain if our company is operating within the PWA? I do both, they have their own rules we all need to deal with or change. A pilot who bids reserve isn’t any less entitled to b!tch, is he/she?
#114
That only works if your cateogry regularly sees GS#2. In my category GS#2 are extremely rare and I'm almost certain I've never seen GS#3 in the last two years. Heck even in the summer I'm lucky if GS#1 even gets down to my seniority.
#115
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,544
It is what it is. I wonder if the poor block holder (regular pilot) who is rerouted has a right to complain if our company is operating within the PWA? I do both, they have their own rules we all need to deal with or change. A pilot who bids reserve isn’t any less entitled to b!tch, is he/she?
#116
Using current pay rates one day of 320 A at 5:20 credit is equivalent to one day of 330 B at 6:20 of credit. If you can beat 6:20 per day you are making more money per day. If the report/release times save you a day away from home because of the commute, you are ahead of the game. If you are 350B or 777B, the gap is even larger.
As far as the gross pay numbers are concerned, you can almost always WS or swap to get a few extra hours or days in a WB category. If you want to work as many days as a 320A, that closes the gap in gross pay. If you substitute 350 pay rate and productivity it takes 7ER A to come out equal pay per day.
As a generality, WB B is better for commuters because of the report/release times and the higher number of DH days on the front or back of trips. NB A works well for those who live in base or have a short commute with frequent flights like BOS-NYC, PHX-LAX, etc.
We have 14,000 opinions on what makes the ideal job. I'm thankful for all of those NB As senior to me who cherish that fourth stripe more than an easy commute, just as those NB As junior to me are glad I commute and want the WB B schedule.
#117
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: 320A
Posts: 625
I might be in agreement with you, I guess I should have labeled my post as sarcasm. I just think sailings post was little absurd and extremely specific. I have to imagine the reserves who get burned while trying to game the system on long call at home change after they can’t make it to work on time.
#118
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
What category base is this happening in? In the past when hearing these stories a quick look at schedules shows it not to be true on a average.
#119
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Left seat of a little plane
Posts: 2,397
The ultimate crew resources wet dream of reserves flying 85 hours a month, all due to reserve assignments via on call days, with no GS and payback days, is hard to do. I would say it is completely impossible for ten consecutive months, what with vacation, training, FAR 117 requirements for 30 hour rest etc.
#120
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 94
If you are truly flying 85+ hours a month on reserve, for 10 months straight, then the GS in your category are likely plentiful...which means you can fly GS on your X days, get paid above the guarantee, and get the violated X days paid back--which means you'll likely fly far less than 85 hours, and get paid far more.
The ultimate crew resources wet dream of reserves flying 85 hours a month, all due to reserve assignments via on call days, with no GS and payback days, is hard to do. I would say it is completely impossible for ten consecutive months, what with vacation, training, FAR 117 requirements for 30 hour rest etc.
The ultimate crew resources wet dream of reserves flying 85 hours a month, all due to reserve assignments via on call days, with no GS and payback days, is hard to do. I would say it is completely impossible for ten consecutive months, what with vacation, training, FAR 117 requirements for 30 hour rest etc.
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