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01-19-2020 | 09:31 AM

#351

crewdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRicco

Of course in the whole pilot pay area, we can split it however we want like seniority based pay. But, assuming current contract value it would bring down our top pay rate to about the 767 level. That is great for those 767 and lower, but bad for those 767 and higher as there is nothing left above them.

3% of our pilot group are at the top Capt pay rate, 7% if you include the 330/764 and only 20% of the group are even above our 7ER rate. It would be an interesting to see what we think a banded pay scale would look like here and cost out a normal career.

01-19-2020 | 10:34 AM

#352

iaflyer

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From: 73N A

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4fans

If the 321 neo starts taking over 757 routes it makes me wonder what the 7er bid package will start to look like. Especially in Atlanta where they seem to be sending them all and adding to the category.

Ask the DTW ER guys. No international for them that originates in their base in Feb or so I read.

01-19-2020 | 10:51 AM

#353

4fans

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Originally Posted by iaflyer

Ask the DTW ER guys. No international for them that originates in their base in Feb or so I read.

that’s what I’m afraid of.

01-19-2020 | 10:54 AM

#354

Funk

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From: Tractor seat

After BS giving commentary on how quickly the new AE optimizer tool could work through solutions, wouldn’t it be reasonable (or interesting, or infuriating, or whatever) to ask for snapshot “draft” results once a day for the last 3-4 days before closeout?

01-19-2020 | 10:59 AM

#355

iaflyer

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From: 73N A

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funk

He's addressed that before - the answer was that it wouldn't do any good because (a) a decent amount of people don't finalize their bid until near the deadline and (b) all it does is annoy people because they would cry, " but I held that position a week/a day/an hour" before the bid closed.

01-19-2020 | 11:33 AM

#356

Baradium

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From: 737 FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaflyer

Plus the bypasses can drastically change what people can hold and they won't have enough information to even guess those until the final bids are in.

01-19-2020 | 11:53 AM

#357

cni187

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Funk

Bid what you want, want what you bid.

01-19-2020 | 12:17 PM

#358

Jaww

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From: 717A

Quote:

Originally Posted by cni187

Bid what you want, want what you bid.

I want a bypass for 350A at age 37. I’ll bid that. I’ll post here with my results.

01-19-2020 | 12:58 PM

#359

Karnak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crewdawg

Is my bypass to the A350 included those percentages? Perhaps it's 3% holding the categories. I'm not in the category, but I'm at the "top Capt pay rate" you describe.

01-19-2020 | 01:21 PM

#360

crewdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnak

Is my bypass to the A350 included those percentages? Perhaps it's 3% holding the categories. I'm not in the category, but I'm at the "top Capt pay rate" you describe.

Lol, ok we'll ignore that many on bypass from the last AE will never actually see that rate, or only will see it for a few months, and add another 100 people. That would move the needle about .5% and maybe push us just into 4% territory.