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Originally Posted by BlueSkies (Post 2960145)

Thanks, good to know.

Also good to know! I'm not expecting to upgrade anytime soon (still ~1000 away from NYC717A) but definitely watching a bit more closely now. Thanks.

I’d have a good look at the bid packages before bidding 717A NYC. Pretty brutal lifestyle if you plan to commute to reserve too. In fact, all the NB flying out of NYC is rough with early sign in and late sign outs. NYC is junior for good reason.

NYC is full of junior opportunities. I’m glad someone is willing to do that stuff. NYC is a huge market and a key piece of the Delta brand and a launching point for our transatlantic JV. The monster must be fed so go for it. Ambitious young captains are perfect for this flying, besides they’ve probably been doing it regularly for years but with fewer people sitting behind the door.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2960114)

Yes, this bid will generate tremendous movement across all fleets. Even if on this bid they don’t backfill specific positions they will have to be posted on the next bid to be filled unless the category is shrinking. The only category currently shrinking is the MD88.

LAX 777 is also shrinking via attrition on this bid.

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2960447)

LAX 777 is also shrinking via attrition on this bid.

I guess I should have used the term fleets. Your correct they are going to migrate the flying East.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2960371)

What exactly is wrong?

I'll take everything MSP. They said MSP was going to grow, yet this AE says the opposite. The MSP drought continues.

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Originally Posted by CX500T (Post 2960197)

Currently at 98% on the ER in nyc after 2 years.

I put down 320, 73N, 220, 717 Captain.
As a wildcard, 765 and 330 FO.

Realistic bids are ER ATL if I get xx percent or better.

Schedule cant really get worse I'm already doing mostly coverage days on reserve Actually got a line for February, but that's a fluke and full of uncommutable.

We will see how junior it goes. I seriously doubt it will go below 12,500 but who knows.

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98% in the right seat? With 90 vacancies even if they fill half, it's going to go super junior. We are expecting ~20 new hires on the ER alone in March.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2960346)

The MD88/90 fleet is in a retirement phase. Not sure how you missed that. They can leave positions unfilled and still remain within contractual rules. All other fleets would require backfill. Backfill does not however have to be on this bid. It can be on a subsequent bid. In the case of the MD88 read the letter attached to the bid. It lays out the current plans for displacements. They may or may not backfill MD88 CA’s depending on several things. They likely will not have bidders to backfill copilot seats so placed openings in the bid to allow new hires. The point of the post was all other fleets must be back filled unless flight ops goes to network and requests a reduction in block hours. That is highly unlikely.

To be clear, nothing contractually requires backfill. You seem to be saying that, but it is completely incorrect. If you are saying that they won’t be able to staff the flying correctly without backfill, the yes, that is correct.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2960546)

They are running many categories near the contractual minimum manning. They can’t go below that. They are at the practical minimum staffing in most category so as you mention will have to backfill on this bid or the follow on bid.

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Originally Posted by Han Solo (Post 2960328)

They did say they would backfill ATL 717, I don't think there will be enough 717 training this bid for them to not fulfill that statement.

Just curious, have you ever commuted to RES? Moreso, have you done it with the 3 airport requirement, NYC weather, NYC airspace, NYC uncommutable trips, and NYC hotel/crashpad costs? I'm not saying it can't be done, but there are reasons NYC NB As are so junior. Also, bidding NYC A with the expectation of moving to a more preferable base in a short period of time is a fool's gambit. Now, if you live in the local area then disregard and good luck!

Ooops, next page, good choice sir. Don't completely rule-out NYC as there are opportunities (think line holding WB B), especially if you're commuting somewhere else anyway. Just go in with your eyes wide open.

Yeah, nooo way I'd commute to res in NYC! I commuted to DTW as a newhire with what I consider to be an ideal commute (one airport, lots of flights, good hotels, etc.) and even that was too much fun for me.

Even for WB I probably wouldn't commute. Driving to work is just way less stress. I know it works for some guys though.

Maybe it was already mentioned earlier, but any guesses for most junior CA?

My guess is 12,300

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2960371)

What exactly is wrong?

There was a statement that positions were offered on the 88 because there wouldn't be enough bidders to backfill... but if they elect to backfill and there aren't bidders for those positions, can't those positions also be offered to new hires?