Delta Mgmt requests mediator.
01-14-2020 | 06:18 PM
#221
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I see it as them wanting to not negotiate in good faith till the end of summer. While still acting like they care about us, so we keep their grand ambitions running this summer. If they wanted things done quickly they would have at least responded to the unions proposals for every section. Since they havent even responded to every section they are stalling because, in my opinion if their counter offers got out into the wild the operation would be more of disaster than it is already going to be.
01-14-2020 | 06:26 PM
#222
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It may be, but they wasted 2+months of free delay by simply going through the motions until the end of March before a joint application for mediation would be in order. Walking away and immediately asking for mediation doesn’t seem consistent with a ‘run out the clock to get through summer’ strategy. If management is full of evil geniuses that are hell bent on not paying a nickel more and simultaneously squeezing the last ounce of work and life from the pilot group, how does potentially advancing the clock towards getting a third party involved work towards their ends?
01-14-2020 | 06:36 PM
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It may be, but they wasted 2+months of free delay by simply going through the motions until the end of March before a joint application for mediation would be in order. Walking away and immediately asking for mediation doesn’t seem consistent with a ‘run out the clock to get through summer’ strategy. If management is full of evil geniuses that are hell bent on not paying a nickel more and simultaneously squeezing the last ounce of work and life from the pilot group, how does potentially advancing the clock towards getting a third party involved work towards their ends?
01-15-2020 | 01:16 AM
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It may be, but they wasted 2+months of free delay by simply going through the motions until the end of March before a joint application for mediation would be in order. Walking away and immediately asking for mediation doesn’t seem consistent with a ‘run out the clock to get through summer’ strategy. If management is full of evil geniuses that are hell bent on not paying a nickel more and simultaneously squeezing the last ounce of work and life from the pilot group, how does potentially advancing the clock towards getting a third party involved work towards their ends?
01-15-2020 | 01:17 AM
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This is key for the union to have strong pilot support. The current table positions of both sides need to be released.
01-15-2020 | 04:48 AM
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You can listen to what the company says in emails and skyhub posts, but don't ignore the actions that they are taking. Quite often, the message that is being broadcasted is in stark contrast with their actual actions. I, for one, know that I can only be lied to so many times before I recognize that it's my fault if I keep believing the lies.
01-15-2020 | 08:29 AM
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As I have posted several times by asking for mediation now management does not have to put a table position on the key sections of the contract out until well after summer is over. Most of you have not been here when positions the pilot group found objectionable were put out. Management remembers.
In other words, being insulted by a low offer is only slightly less harmful than being insulted that they gave up and want the NMB to step in. By not having any idea what our ask is, we don’t know if our side is being unreasonable or their side.
01-15-2020 | 10:19 AM
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I see it as them wanting to not negotiate in good faith till the end of summer. While still acting like they care about us, so we keep their grand ambitions running this summer. If they wanted things done quickly they would have at least responded to the unions proposals for every section. Since they havent even responded to every section they are stalling because, in my opinion if their counter offers got out into the wild the operation would be more of disaster than it is already going to be.
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