Delta Mgmt requests mediator.
01-10-2020 | 11:32 AM
#121
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Here is a question for all.
Why did the company request to go to mediation at this particular point? Our contract calls for us to jointly apply for mediation in, what, less than 3 months? What’s their big hurry? I’m guessing this is more of a psychological play by the company to get pilots to question their union. Don’t fall for it.
Denny
Why did the company request to go to mediation at this particular point? Our contract calls for us to jointly apply for mediation in, what, less than 3 months? What’s their big hurry? I’m guessing this is more of a psychological play by the company to get pilots to question their union. Don’t fall for it.
Denny
01-10-2020 | 11:52 AM
#122
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it would have been foolish to publish this. What if we asked for a 10% pay raise and united gets a 14% pay raise....that would be shooting ourselves in the foot.
My personal opinion would be to go for united +$1 (so the egotistical delta pilots can still say they are the highest paid) and focus all the negotiating capital on work rules.
My personal opinion would be to go for united +$1 (so the egotistical delta pilots can still say they are the highest paid) and focus all the negotiating capital on work rules.
01-10-2020 | 12:15 PM
#124
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Statements like this are embarrassing. You are actually fighting against our own negotiating strategy.
01-10-2020 | 12:21 PM
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it would have been foolish to publish this. What if we asked for a 10% pay raise and united gets a 14% pay raise....that would be shooting ourselves in the foot.
My personal opinion would be to go for united +$1 (so the egotistical delta pilots can still say they are the highest paid) and focus all the negotiating capital on work rules.
My personal opinion would be to go for united +$1 (so the egotistical delta pilots can still say they are the highest paid) and focus all the negotiating capital on work rules.
If we’re asking for a 56% increase in retirement DC (16% going to 25%) PLUS the MBCBP lump sum, I will postulate that we’re asking for a 60% pay raise.
01-10-2020 | 12:27 PM
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The ask should be compared more with the pre bankruptcy contract than the current one. From the sound of it, the company's ask isn't anywhere near a zone of reasonableness itself.
Statements like this are embarrassing. You are actually fighting against our own negotiating strategy.
Statements like this are embarrassing. You are actually fighting against our own negotiating strategy.
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01-10-2020 | 12:30 PM
#127
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Back in the early 70's a major captain made maybe $45k a year. TWA had an ad in Flying magazine back then advertising for pilots. It mentioned living in great locations and making $1million in your career. Now a half dozen or more line pilots for Delta made that last year!
I'm not really sure how that fits into your argument? I'm not trying to argue, I just don't understand what you're trying to say.
01-10-2020 | 12:32 PM
#128
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Maybe, maybe not. This is mediation not arbitration. It has no binding to it. We can still walk away. The company is trying to drag this out because this is the best economic environment to negotiate a contract ever. It does not hurt them to say let's pump the brakes and see what 6 months with Iran or the economy. I guarantee you that if some world event happened where bookings even went remotely down they would come running to the table poor mouthing.
01-10-2020 | 12:34 PM
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For context, those numbers adjusted for inflation are roughly $300k and $6.6M. So pretty much what a "major captain" gets now working a normal line in a 22 year career.
I'm not really sure how that fits into your argument? I'm not trying to argue, I just don't understand what you're trying to say.
I'm not really sure how that fits into your argument? I'm not trying to argue, I just don't understand what you're trying to say.
01-10-2020 | 12:49 PM
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Maybe the company's Section 23 proposals were a complete non-starter, and well beyond the "zone of reasonableness" for our negotiators, but management is hoping that a mediator will side with them anyway.
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