Delta To Furlough?
05-22-2020 | 11:07 AM
#1902
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True. However there is a prettybig carrot now with the 35 large RJ's that are permanently pulled. Maybe a carrier would agree to that, maybe not. They could be whipsawed with not only the 35 but a lot more dangled out there to whoever may take it. It could also simply be imposed on a non union carrier by uts management, however it would more likely be brought to them for a non binding vote first (deal me an ace 2.0) but most likely, if DL really wants those jets in the future (they're parked at the moment anyway, along with a lot more than that as we all know) then a NEWCO 2.0 could easily be started. Lots of dormant certificates floating around, and new ones aren't that hard to spool up either. Yet another option would be to simply put them on the mainline.
05-22-2020 | 11:23 AM
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Not saying it’s impossible. In fact I think its quite likely at some point down the road. I was more a less commenting on the posters mindset that if they lose their job they can simply waltz right onto another seniority list and kick the regional guy to the unemployment line because somehow them flying a bigger jet makes them more of a qualified human.
05-22-2020 | 12:28 PM
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Anyone think management and the MEC will come up with a voluntary furlough option or are leaves the only option we'll get? Do you think long-term voluntary leaves would be denied later this summer after this whole displacement and UNA debacle is finalized? I've got another side gig I'd like to pursue for a few years rather than commute from the west coast to LGA for the 220 (I'm an 11,7XX).
05-22-2020 | 12:48 PM
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The issue is the 90% of the list provision, if you flow back to just the 35 jets, it doesn't matter because those jets were leaving anyway.
05-22-2020 | 06:46 PM
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Some numbers were thrown out there as to how much it costs for training and how many months DAL would have to furlough for it to be cost effective for the company. I have a question for anyone near my seniority (less than 1k from bottom).
Can we look at UNA as a SIL, except its only determined by our seniority number? What magic number of hours would the company have to pay us to be able to keep us in that category vs having to furlough us?
I would take 40 hours in UNA vs being furloughed. Just throwing numbers out.
Could this be a possible scenario? It'd be more cost efficient for the company than the 55 hour SIL that was initially offered.
Can we look at UNA as a SIL, except its only determined by our seniority number? What magic number of hours would the company have to pay us to be able to keep us in that category vs having to furlough us?
I would take 40 hours in UNA vs being furloughed. Just throwing numbers out.
Could this be a possible scenario? It'd be more cost efficient for the company than the 55 hour SIL that was initially offered.
05-22-2020 | 07:07 PM
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Some numbers were thrown out there as to how much it costs for training and how many months DAL would have to furlough for it to be cost effective for the company. I have a question for anyone near my seniority (less than 1k from bottom).
Can we look at UNA as a SIL, except its only determined by our seniority number? What magic number of hours would the company have to pay us to be able to keep us in that category vs having to furlough us?
I would take 40 hours in UNA vs being furloughed. Just throwing numbers out.
Could this be a possible scenario? It'd be more cost efficient for the company than the 55 hour SIL that was initially offered.
Can we look at UNA as a SIL, except its only determined by our seniority number? What magic number of hours would the company have to pay us to be able to keep us in that category vs having to furlough us?
I would take 40 hours in UNA vs being furloughed. Just throwing numbers out.
Could this be a possible scenario? It'd be more cost efficient for the company than the 55 hour SIL that was initially offered.
I don’t think they will...why pay us 40 hours when they can pay us 0? Doesn’t affect the training bill at all.
05-22-2020 | 07:11 PM
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