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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
What ****es me off is delta is telling new hires to show to class Monday
If they get a Delta seniority number the get sent away, that’s still a win

as for furlough’s taking 24 months to pay off, consider the following scenarios.
1) i will give you $1billion, You just have to hold your breath for 24 months
2) i will pay you minimum wage to wash 152 bellies at a flight school

job 1 pays way better but what do you choose?
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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
If they get a Delta seniority number the get sent away, that’s still a win

as for furlough’s taking 24 months to pay off, consider the following scenarios.
1) i will give you $1billion, You just have to hold your breath for 24 months
2) i will pay you minimum wage to wash 152 bellies at a flight school

job 1 pays way better but what do you choose?
how about number 3, stay at your current job and when we hire again you’ll be the first back.
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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Maybe they know something you don't.
No can't be, guys on here have already decreed that we will furlough 2-3k!
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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
how about number 3, stay at your current job and when we hire again you’ll be the first back.
my guess is if sumbody had their old job and told delta they wud be absent its not gona be held against them.
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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
"furloughed" time has nothing to do with USERRA limits, you do what it takes to provide for yourself and your family. When the call comes to go back, most were offered to "transition" to "mil leave" status (or stay on bypass and delay your return).
At that point you have to reconsider your mil plans and the USERRA limits. Best of luck to all of us!
For anyone interested regarding USERRA and employment the ROA (Reserve Officer's Association) offers a free expert legal advice to its members and gives excellent answers to some scenarios regarding situations pertaining to military duty and civilian employment.
https://www.roa.org/page/lawcenter
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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
For anyone interested regarding USERRA and employment the ROA (Reserve Officer's Association) offers a free expert legal advice to its members and gives excellent answers to some scenarios regarding situations pertaining to military duty and civilian employment.
https://www.roa.org/page/lawcenter
Or talk to any of your recently retired squadron mates who are airline pilots. Most of them were able to snag a 20 yr retirement out of the furloughs post 9/11, plus their 5 years of mloa. Bottom line, my understanding is that if you're furloughed, that time does not count toward the USERRA. I'm not a lawyer.
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Old 03-13-2020 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Or talk to any of your recently retired squadron mates who are airline pilots. Most of them were able to snag a 20 yr retirement out of the furloughs post 9/11, plus their 5 years of mloa. Bottom line, my understanding is that if you're furloughed, that time does not count toward the USERRA. I'm not a lawyer.
Will they typically freeze the USERRA clock for pilots senior enough to avoid furlough, but who are willing to go on orders to allow a more junior pilot to stay employed?

VLOA vs MLOA has benefits ramifications. Just wondering what the historical precedent is.
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Old 03-13-2020 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
They are going to need short term loans to finance operations, as advanced bookings are in the tank.
everyone will have to give their profit sharing checks back 🤪🤪🤪
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Old 03-13-2020 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
everyone will have to give their profit sharing checks back 🤪🤪🤪
Right after they claw back the 15B in burnbacks.
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Old 03-13-2020 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Or talk to any of your recently retired squadron mates who are airline pilots. Most of them were able to snag a 20 yr retirement out of the furloughs post 9/11, plus their 5 years of mloa. Bottom line, my understanding is that if you're furloughed, that time does not count toward the USERRA. I'm not a lawyer.
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