23K/Recovery Questions Thread
04-03-2020, 01:53 PM
#271
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Originally Posted by 4fans
I thought i read about a caveat for a first leg DH that is canceled and moved to a later DH.
Short story, i had a trip 23K. Picked up a 2 day for recovery flying that starts with a DH, day before, they leave a message that says the DH canceled, now fly a later DH to start the same two day. Is that double 23K?
Short story, i had a trip 23K. Picked up a 2 day for recovery flying that starts with a DH, day before, they leave a message that says the DH canceled, now fly a later DH to start the same two day. Is that double 23K?
04-03-2020, 02:21 PM
#272
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If you have a 5 day footprint for 23k and they assign a trip that has an overnight in base, are you SOL? I’m looking at a trip that it out of EWR that day one is an out and back and then overnight in domicile (ewr) then does two more days of flying? Is that even a legally built rotation? I’m hoping I dodge it but it would fit. I could try invoking the five hour sit hotel provision. It’s actually written so that this would apply. It says at or away from base and at least five hours. No time limit, no overnight exception.
04-03-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CatDad
If you have a 5 day footprint for 23k and they assign a trip that has an overnight in base, are you SOL? I’m looking at a trip that it out of EWR that day one is an out and back and then overnight in domicile (ewr) then does two more days of flying? Is that even a legally built rotation? I’m hoping I dodge it but it would fit. I could try invoking the five hour sit hotel provision. It’s actually written so that this would apply. It says at or away from base and at least five hours. No time limit, no overnight exception.
04-03-2020, 02:25 PM
#274
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Originally Posted by 4fans
I thought i read about a caveat for a first leg DH that is canceled and moved to a later DH.
Short story, i had a trip 23K. Picked up a 2 day for recovery flying that starts with a DH, day before, they leave a message that says the DH canceled, now fly a later DH to start the same two day. Is that double 23K?
Short story, i had a trip 23K. Picked up a 2 day for recovery flying that starts with a DH, day before, they leave a message that says the DH canceled, now fly a later DH to start the same two day. Is that double 23K?
”After recovery #1, the only acceptable change that does not count as a second recovery is if Crew Scheduling removes legs from your original rotation and adds a DH (recovery #1), then subsequently changes that same DH to a different DH (not recovery #2). Otherwise, any other changes are considered subsequent illegal assignments.”
04-03-2020, 02:27 PM
#275
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I noticed 2 of my rotations that have been 23K'ed (1 in MAR and 1 in APR) pay less than the bid package rotation guarantee. They are both labeled closed.
How long should we wait until we make the dreaded 2-hrs-on-hold call to fix their mistake and get the pay we're entitled to?
How long should we wait until we make the dreaded 2-hrs-on-hold call to fix their mistake and get the pay we're entitled to?
04-03-2020, 02:44 PM
#276
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
i have heard people are having great success using pilot assist app to get this fixed...minutes, not hours.
04-03-2020, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CatDad
If you have a 5 day footprint for 23k and they assign a trip that has an overnight in base, are you SOL? I’m looking at a trip that it out of EWR that day one is an out and back and then overnight in domicile (ewr) then does two more days of flying? Is that even a legally built rotation? I’m hoping I dodge it but it would fit. I could try invoking the five hour sit hotel provision. It’s actually written so that this would apply. It says at or away from base and at least five hours. No time limit, no overnight exception.
04-03-2020, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Xjtpilot518
My understanding is when rerouted into overnight in base you are entitled to a hotel
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