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Old 04-03-2020, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinsat7 View Post
. We’re well past the stage of this not being a thing.
But they said on TV this is just another flu! I'm so confused.
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That’s why the Pentagon is providing 100,000 body bags to FEMA.
That’s why rows of morgue trucks are lined up at New York hospitals.
That’s why there are thousands of extra funeral urns at Chinese morgues.
It’s not the pneumonic plague but I wouldn’t call it manufactured.

As an airline pilot everything should be on your list. Pilots who fail to know this do so at their own risk. I’m glad we had a pragmatic risk adverse policy at our MEC for as long as we did.

Ironically, we are now better off with a MEC who will be more confrontational.

I said the *panic* was manufactured. I’m not saying the pandemic is manufactured. I *am* saying that while this is a serious issue that warrants decisive action, it is not something about which to panic. I’ve also not seen a single article about “rows” of refrigerated trailers at NYC hospitals.
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Old 04-03-2020, 05:59 AM
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I’ve also not seen a single article about “rows” of refrigerated trailers at NYC hospitals.
To be more accurate on my part they are located at hospitals and morgues.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-cooler-trucks
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:16 AM
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To be more accurate on my part they are located at hospitals and morgues.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-cooler-trucks

Uh, so 45 trucks for a city of nearly 19 million people? That’s not “rows” of them at a hospital. This is how the panic gets manufactured.

Did you know that people still die, even if they don’t get COVID? The number of non-COVID deaths is going to go down, but not by that much. There are going to be more deaths than normal for the next 2-3 months. According to your link, the city has added ~2,000 available morgue spots with the trailers. For a city of nearly 19 million.

Elmhurst Hospital, the poster hospital for the panic, has one trailer as of the 26th of March.


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Old 04-03-2020, 06:25 AM
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University of Pittsburgh Medical thinks they might have a potential vaccine.

But it will take a year, minimum, to test it thoroughly.

Still, this thing won’t be truly over until a vaccine comes through.

https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2020/04/02/pitt-develops-potential-vaccine-for-novel.html
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I have noticed all the posts mocking the term black swan we saw are gone.
Are you talking about the guys who said us young guys would have rocket ship careers and acted like we'd never see a black swan event? That we should pre-fund a massive amount if near term retirements, because you'll be "guaranteed" 25% DC in your amazingly untouched careers? Or are you talking about other guys?
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Are you talking about the guys who said us young guys would have rocket ship careers and acted like we'd never see a black swan event? That we should pre-fund a massive amount if near term retirements, because you'll be "guaranteed" 25% DC in your amazingly untouched careers? Or are you talking about other guys?
...that was part of it. But those same guys were against getting a contract cause we went gonna give a thing and our ask was 3B a year. Some were saying let's get er done cause no telling what the future will bring. That was meet with "what go go wrong" ,"my MEC "speaks for me.

Like I said in the previous post , both sides used "black swan" as a cudgel to further their personal wants and needs. Too many on these forums are "All or None" thinkers. Most of the issues have 2 sides
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I can tell you one thing. Jerry's promises of retro and taking as long as we need to were dead wrong. When we finally do get a contract even if it's not concessionary, we probably won't even get a signing bonus at this point.

What was right was me saying these guys were going to retire under the current contract without getting an extra cent yet alone a few hundred thousand. I told you so Jerry.
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers View Post
...that was part of it. But those same guys were against getting a contract cause we went gonna give a thing and our ask was 3B a year. Some were saying let's get er done cause no telling what the future will bring. That was meet with "what go go wrong" ,"my MEC "speaks for me.

Like I said in the previous post , both sides used "black swan" as a cudgel to further their personal wants and needs. Too many on these forums are "All or None" thinkers. Most of the issues have 2 sides
You may notice, if you care to look, that no young guys/gals are rubbing anyone’s noses in that turd. It’s time for unity, and I am proud to stand up and fight to preserve a contract and a job worth returning to after a furlough.
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It’s time for unity, and I am proud to stand up and fight to preserve a contract and a job worth returning to after a furlough.

Great idea that unity idea. My prediction(seen it before) Unity will stand tall initially, but as this drags on it will erode. Those getting furloughed or on the brink will lose resolve as will some of the others when faced with backwards movement. Hopefully a quick recovery can mitigate that track. Besides, unity for what? Full pay till the last day? I'm down for that, cause I'll be retiring and no outcome will affect me.

I recognize the 20 or 30 keyboard warrior will tend to differ with me but I'm talking the masses. Time will tell
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