SLI jobs on 220, 330, 350
05-31-2021, 08:01 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Within about 15 minutes of announcing such a policy regular commuters would be screaming about how grossly unfair the policy was and that it was discrimination pure and simple!
Of course, all seniority list jobs were important, so any time the motion was on, a seniority list instructor was required. Oh, and you had to hold what you taught on, which is not the case here. If you lost your seat, you lost your IP gig.
05-31-2021, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
At NWA, Instructors got positive space, hotels and had a higher non-rev priority, to boot. The only thing I ever heard anyone ever say about it "Good. We want the best pilots across the system teaching, not just those that live in MSP". And this was at an airline that was 80%+ commuters.
Of course, all seniority list jobs were important, so any time the motion was on, a seniority list instructor was required. Oh, and you had to hold what you taught on, which is not the case here. If you lost your seat, you lost your IP gig.
Of course, all seniority list jobs were important, so any time the motion was on, a seniority list instructor was required. Oh, and you had to hold what you taught on, which is not the case here. If you lost your seat, you lost your IP gig.
I think the bigger issue is that SLIs actually work for their money. That arrangement needs to be reconsidered if they need 100 more SLIs and cannot find them. Why work for 13 days off at 85 hours if you can work a greenslip for the same credit and get about 18 days off? This is a pay issue, not a commutability issue IMHO.
05-31-2021, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman
I think the bigger issue is that SLIs actually work for their money. That arrangement needs to be reconsidered if they need 100 more SLIs and cannot find them. Why work for 13 days off at 85 hours if you can work a greenslip for the same credit and get about 18 days off? This is a pay issue, not a commutability issue IMHO.
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05-31-2021, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman
ATL has 4000 pilots, MSP had how many for NATCO? Big difference there wouldn’t you say? Also, hardly any SLIs here that cannot hold the jet they teach on so I think it’s disingenuous to say it’s a big issue.
I think the bigger issue is that SLIs actually work for their money. That arrangement needs to be reconsidered if they need 100 more SLIs and cannot find them. Why work for 13 days off at 85 hours if you can work a greenslip for the same credit and get about 18 days off? This is a pay issue, not a commutability issue IMHO.
I think the bigger issue is that SLIs actually work for their money. That arrangement needs to be reconsidered if they need 100 more SLIs and cannot find them. Why work for 13 days off at 85 hours if you can work a greenslip for the same credit and get about 18 days off? This is a pay issue, not a commutability issue IMHO.
IP scheduling at NWA also had it's rules (codified in the contract, BTW, so management couldn't just wave their magic wand and change it). Base pay was 80 hours, plus a small override ($600) for 16 events. Those over 16 paid %150, with an absolute max of 19.
05-31-2021, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tunes
Full disclosure, I’m a SLI. The money is lucrative but you definitely have to work for it. There’s no soft money like on the line. Bunch of instructors have gotten burnt out and left after this last AE
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05-31-2021, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Oh, and you had to hold what you taught on, which is not the case here. If you lost your seat, you lost your IP gig.
05-31-2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Within about 15 minutes of announcing such a policy regular commuters would be screaming about how grossly unfair the policy was and that it was discrimination pure and simple!
But if something like that happened, people that live in base will be screaming within 15min how is not fair for them.
05-31-2021, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
And hotels for regular commuter should be also included. They have those at Envoy, 4 a month and if they cancel your overnight and you’re in base, hotel is included without incurring on your bank.
But if something like that happened, people that live in base will be screaming within 15min how is not fair for them.
But if something like that happened, people that live in base will be screaming within 15min how is not fair for them.
05-31-2021, 12:53 PM
#120
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Originally Posted by bsh932
How does pay work on your fly months? Do you just get paid what you fly based on your actual hourly rate or do you still get the 85 hour guarantee on the highest rate you can hold?
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