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Tailhookah 09-20-2020 07:33 PM

If the MEC approves the deal it will go to full MEMRAT. Not a shortened vote timeline. But the full duration vote window. We will decide if it passes. Not the MEC.

Gone Flying 09-20-2020 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Der Meister (Post 3132943)
So the majority are not whining entitled millenials like the DZ guys want everyone to think. Almost as if they had no idea what they were talking about, once again...

while I don’t disagree with the sentiment, millennials are usually defined as people born between 1980-1995. Most people don’t realize that older millennials turn 40 in 2020.

From the best I can tell, many in the boomer generation (b1946-1965) were hired at a major around the time they were 30, that is simply not true anymore

Myfingershurt 09-20-2020 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3132948)
while I don’t disagree with the sentiment, millennials are usually defined as people born between 1980-1995. Most people don’t realize that older millennials turn 40 in 2020.

From the best I can tell, many in the boomer generation were hired at a major around the time they were 30, that is simply not true anymore

1981-1996! 1980 is still genX. Thank goodness!

boog123 09-20-2020 07:46 PM

Most of the angst about any DZer retirement improvements came from

beis77 09-20-2020 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Tailhookah (Post 3132947)
If the MEC approves the deal it will go to full MEMRAT. Not a shortened vote timeline. But the full duration vote window. We will decide if it passes. Not the MEC.

Concerning the voluntary TA, are you sure about that? I’m only asking because I’ve read an LEC response suggesting otherwise, I.e. that the measures are voluntary and therefore should easily pass an MEC vote, and will be approved without delay since its voluntary (no MEMRAT).

Der Meister 09-20-2020 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 3132946)
You see the irony there Einstein?

The irony that 90% of the pilot group didnt want concessions? And yet that same group (furlough group) make up 20% of the total? There for 50% of said group is not for concessions. Not sure how you could draw irony about that but, Einstein was quite good with numbers, you clearly are not.

Gone Flying 09-20-2020 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by Tailhookah (Post 3132947)
If the MEC approves the deal it will go to full MEMRAT. Not a shortened vote timeline. But the full duration vote window. We will decide if it passes. Not the MEC.

are you talking about the 220 deal (voluntarily measures only) or the other deal that details are not known yet?

honest question, why would a voluntary measures only LOA have to go to MEMRAT?

Der Meister 09-20-2020 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3132954)
are you talking about the 220 deal (voluntarily measures only) or the other deal that details are not known yet?

honest question, why would a voluntary measures only LOA have to go to MEMRAT?

Because it doesn't benefit them so clearly it's a concession to help others.

beis77 09-20-2020 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3132924)
I know this was asked a few days ago but I did look up the age demographics of everyone hired on or after 9/25/2017

Over 40 on 1/1/2021- 561
35-39 on 1/1/2021- 599
30-34 on 1/1/2021- 384
under 30 on 1/1/2021- 177

TL;DR most in the furlough range are 35 or over, no idea on family or guard/reserve activity

Why do the demographics of the 1721 matter? Serious question, not throwing shade. I’m wondering what difference it makes is all.

Der Meister 09-20-2020 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by beis77 (Post 3132957)
Why do the demographics of the 1721 matter? Serious question, not throwing shade. I’m wondering what difference it makes is all.

It doesnt but someone above wanted to know. The only reason I can figure out of their post was they were trying to decide how deserving the group was. As if they wanted to compare their story against the potential furlough group.


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