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10-07-2020 | 09:53 AM
#581
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Well the flu mortality rate is 0.1% of those who get the flu. For Covid the mortality rate is 2% for those who get Covid. Both those numbers a huge oversimplifications but IDK if its quite at joking levels.
Certainly this is a problem where reasonable people can have many viewpoints. Personally I'm a "protect those who need protection" im in my thirties so *makes dismissive hand gesture*.
Certainly this is a problem where reasonable people can have many viewpoints. Personally I'm a "protect those who need protection" im in my thirties so *makes dismissive hand gesture*.
10-07-2020 | 10:01 AM
#583
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From: 717A
Well the flu mortality rate is 0.1% of those who get the flu. For Covid the mortality rate is 2% for those who get Covid. Both those numbers a huge oversimplifications but IDK if its quite at joking levels.
Certainly this is a problem where reasonable people can have many viewpoints. Personally I'm a "protect those who need protection" im in my thirties so *makes dismissive hand gesture*.
Certainly this is a problem where reasonable people can have many viewpoints. Personally I'm a "protect those who need protection" im in my thirties so *makes dismissive hand gesture*.
10-07-2020 | 10:31 AM
#585
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If anyone is bored and looking for death JH does a neat site. Hurray death.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Theres also an open source project site with lots of simplified numbers
https://www.covidbyregion.com/
Not that any of us are epidemiologist but somewhat interesting for laymen. Morbid, but it's 2020, go with the flow.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Theres also an open source project site with lots of simplified numbers
https://www.covidbyregion.com/
Not that any of us are epidemiologist but somewhat interesting for laymen. Morbid, but it's 2020, go with the flow.
10-07-2020 | 11:48 AM
#587
Bracing for Fallacies
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From: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
[So anyone is bored and looking for death JH does a neat site. [b]Hurray death.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Theres also an open source project site with lots of simplified numbers
https://www.covidbyregion.com/
Not that any of us are epidemiologist but somewhat interesting for laymen. Morbid, but it's 2020, go with the flow.[/QUOTE]
hurray destruction of society as we once knew it.
see? I can do that too.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Theres also an open source project site with lots of simplified numbers
https://www.covidbyregion.com/
Not that any of us are epidemiologist but somewhat interesting for laymen. Morbid, but it's 2020, go with the flow.[/QUOTE]
hurray destruction of society as we once knew it.
see? I can do that too.
10-07-2020 | 12:18 PM
#588
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So Ted....currently the excess mortality rate in the USA is -4% overall and 0% for 18 to 80 yo and -11% for 80 +... Is the negative excess mortality rate because the weak were "culled" a few months early....and virtually very few of the 18-80 have perished? IOW...they were gonna die anyway very shortly anyway?
Sorry if this is stated too "insensitively" for some. Seriously.
IOW....doesn't it kinda support my "general facts" about death rates and age a coupla post above? Or am I missing something?
Sorry if this is stated too "insensitively" for some. Seriously.
IOW....doesn't it kinda support my "general facts" about death rates and age a coupla post above? Or am I missing something?
From the linked website:
"Besides visualizing excess mortality as a percentage difference, we can also look at the raw death counts as shown here in this chart. The raw death counts help give us a rough sense of scale: for example, the US suffered some 260,000 more deaths than the five-year average between 1 March and 16 August, compared to 169,000 confirmed COVID-19 deaths during that period."
10-07-2020 | 12:23 PM
#589
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The Johns Hopkins numbers are 2.8% guy, I was rounding down to 2% to make things nice and even keel. But we can't even do that. The mortality rate for people who get Covid isn't as low as the flu, and probably not all that funny was all I was getting at. I don't know what to say people who get angry and tell me to site my numbers AND that I'm wrong at the same time.
The data is the data guys. I'm not saying it's end of the world, just that 2% isn't that funny. 2.8 if you need a specific number. About 12% of the population is 65 and older, something like 4% are 80 and older. That's a fuzzy circle around the folks needing to be super careful for the purposes of Covid.. and hips.
The data is the data guys. I'm not saying it's end of the world, just that 2% isn't that funny. 2.8 if you need a specific number. About 12% of the population is 65 and older, something like 4% are 80 and older. That's a fuzzy circle around the folks needing to be super careful for the purposes of Covid.. and hips.
10-07-2020 | 12:28 PM
#590
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Again, just read what I said. Of people who get the 'Vid, 2.8% (I said 2 because it's not like it's crazy high) will die as a result of Covid (through complications, 94%). Those are the numbers from John's Hopkins, it's the same data we're all using, you break it out however you want, but the % mortality for >70 get's kinda scary and I don't know how it contributes to the discussion.
