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Old 04-13-2021, 05:24 PM   #21  
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Does that change the filth, stench, trash bags on the street, urine on the walls, disgusting and unsafe both health and security wise public transportation? Nope it's still a horrid place



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To each their own. Opens up a spot to an enterprising pilot that's alittle more "open minded"

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I know I laugh every time he comments about gs make up for everything. He obviously does not have a family yet.
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I was once an ATL-centric, “never New Yorker”. Circumstances in my life changed and I bid up first on a NB for Max seniority and then to the ER. Best years of my career. Out in SEA now, and while great, I can’t wait to get back someday.

Some of the best crews, most diverse flying and best relative seniority. If you’re even slightly inclined just take the plunge.

What Trip says is true. Guys get all bent out of shape trying to split a General taxi with the flight attendants hustling from one airport to the next. No wonder they think it sucks. Spend a couple bucks on ubers and hotels and enjoy the ride.

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What about DTW320A? There are only 22 posted vacancies in NYC with 5 pilots still holding reinstatement rights for a net of 17 vacancies as opposed to DTW with 69 posted vacancies with only 3 pilots holding reinstatement rights for a net of 66. Gonna have to be a lot more movement out of the NYC category to compete with the DTW category.
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I know I laugh every time he comments about gs make up for everything. He obviously does not have a family yet.

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What about DTW320A? There are only 22 posted vacancies in NYC with 5 pilots still holding reinstatement rights for a net of 17 vacancies as opposed to DTW with 69 posted vacancies with only 3 pilots holding reinstatement rights for a net of 66. Gonna have to be a lot more movement out of the NYC category to compete with the DTW category.
I will be shocked if a good number of those DTW openings don’t get filled by current NYC 320A guys trying to improve their QOL, thus opening up more NYC slots.
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I was once an ATL-centric, “never New Yorker”. Circumstances in my life changed and I bid up first on a NB for Max seniority and then to the ER. Best years of my career. Out in SEA now, and while great, I can’t wait to get back someday.



Some of the best crews, most diverse flying and best relative seniority. If you’re even slightly inclined just take the plunge.



What Trip says is true. Guys get all bent out of shape trying to split a General taxi with the flight attendants hustling from one airport to the next. No wonder they think it sucks. Spend a couple bucks on ubers and hotels and enjoy the ride.



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Precisely . Folks miss out on the big picture staring at little stuff. If you're going to be super duper reserve for an extended period(probably 2017+ DOH) that's a different story but 50-80%(easily a line holder) NYC320A is 300K+ job on an airplane that's widely regarded as the easiest training program at Delta. Then you add in epic movement from retirements combined with fleet growth with the imminent arrival of the 321NEO. And folks want to talk about $40 uBers. Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a nickel.



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I will be shocked if a good number of those DTW openings don’t get filled by current NYC 320A guys trying to improve their QOL, thus opening up more NYC slots.
I think you're spot on. With NYC being so commuter heavy I think the new positions on multiple fleets in DTW and SEA grab alot of folks out of NYC. Combine that with the NYC Widebody A positions freeing up alot of NB A positions in addition to the vacancies and you have all kinds of opportunities available in the Big Apple.

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Precisely . Folks miss out on the big picture staring at little stuff. If you're going to be super duper reserve for an extended period(probably 2017+ DOH) that's a different story but 50-80%(easily a line holder) NYC320A is 300K+ job on an airplane that's widely regarded as the easiest training program at Delta. Then you add in epic movement from retirements combined with fleet growth with the imminent arrival of the 321NEO. And folks want to talk about $40 uBers. Talk about stepping over a dollar to save a nickel.





I think you're spot on. With NYC being so commuter heavy I think the new positions on multiple fleets in DTW and SEA grab alot of folks out of NYC. Combine that with the NYC Widebody A positions freeing up alot of NB A positions in addition to the vacancies and you have all kinds of opportunities available in the Big Apple.

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Plus with positive space commuting + no backup required for the next ~18 months maybe that pill becomes easier to swallow for some.
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Plus with positive space commuting + no backup required for the next ~18 months maybe that pill becomes easier to swallow for some.
Gutsy move on a 365 AE. One might even call that short-sighted?
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What about DTW320A? There are only 22 posted vacancies in NYC with 5 pilots still holding reinstatement rights for a net of 17 vacancies as opposed to DTW with 69 posted vacancies with only 3 pilots holding reinstatement rights for a net of 66. Gonna have to be a lot more movement out of the NYC category to compete with the DTW category.
There are always more positions filled than what is posted, especially on an epic bid like this. There will be a lot of extra “contingent vacancies” from the cascade of senior openings as people move up/on. As in, a LOT. There will probably be positions filled on nearly every single position across every base, despite a lack of posted vacancies. (For example, there are 0 ATL320B posted, there will be 30-40 awarded, I’ll bet)

I cannot overemphasize enough to bid what you want, regardless of the AE Memo. Not only will you not get what you don’t ask for, someone else probably will.

it’s going to be a helluva ride. Mother of all MOAB’s. I suspect the biggest bid any of us will ever see. 1000 A’s, 800 new captains projected. The math is undeniable.

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