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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bornflying
Condescending much? No, I would prefer the other deal our union has been working for contract concessions. As has been said dozens of times here...these are the cards we were dealt. Saying no would be suicide for our negotiating relations - is that what you are suggesting? Because that would be ridiculous.
I agree with you, saying no could be bad news, don’t bite the spoon that feeds you. That being said, I’ll be condescending when I spot any poster trying to manipulate a pilot group by placing doubt in their minds. The fact it’s in your own self interest to do so is narcissistic behavior.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:35 AM
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9E pilots are not the enemy. But I’m sure that if DALPA wins the grievance, DAL pilots will be the bad guys in front of 9E pilots.
Not at all. I don’t think a single 9E pilot thinks that way. We just know the fight isn’t ours. Everyone I have spoken to here agrees, we would love to not have this tied to scope.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
I agree with you, saying no could be bad news, don’t bite the spoon that feeds you. That being said, I’ll be condescending when I spot any poster trying to manipulate a pilot group by placing doubt in their minds. The fact it’s in your own self interest to do so is narcissistic behavior.
It's narcissistic to want the kind of financial stability Delta pilots have for me and my family...got it.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bornflying
It's narcissistic to want the kind of financial stability Delta pilots have for me and my family...got it.
That’s not what you’re being called out for.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Amazing how desperate some of you are for flow, JFC.

So let me guess, you want DALPA to give in to scope relief and negotiate something in return, which then allows for 35 RJ’s to fly? Which of course would allow you to flow.

You most certainly are for give in scope as long as it generates contractual progression for you.

It’s not very difficult to read through the incentives of a 9E poster on a DL thread.

No, no. DALPA already caved on scope eleven years ago when LOA 9 was signed. Now you want 9e to stuff that genie back in the bottle.
If Delta pilots want this scope clawed back -that they gave away in the first place- it’s going to take more than a whiney little grievance. Delta pilots need to come up with a plan, with an actual solution that has Delta pilots flying Delta planes.
but it’s easier to throw rocks at 9e.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bloggs
No, no. DALPA already caved on scope eleven years ago when LOA 9 was signed. Now you want 9e to stuff that genie back in the bottle.
If Delta pilots want this scope clawed back -that they gave away in the first place- it’s going to take more than a whiney little grievance. Delta pilots need to come up with a plan, with an actual solution that has Delta pilots flying Delta planes.
but it’s easier to throw rocks at 9e.
Yeah.... I’m not calling out 9E. I’m calling out a single poster for trying to manipulate a pilot group by creating doubt. DALPA has a strong case, they’ll win it.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Yeah.... I’m not calling out 9E. I’m calling out a single poster for trying to manipulate a pilot group by creating doubt. DALPA has a strong case, they’ll win it.
I'm not manipulating anything...if you think it's a slam-dunk case why all the fuss?

I did a little research on contract law and I'm just stating what I found. These things among others are what the lawyers will argue. Apparently, I struck a nerve and you have no good arguments against it so you instead turn to ad hominem attacks.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:04 PM
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“In the event the hiring or flow provisions of NWA LOA 2006-10 or LOA #9 cease to be available, either at the feeder carrier affiliate referenced in such LOAs or at another carrier, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft in Section 1 B. 47. e.will be reduced by 35.”

No. No ambiguity here...
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bornflying
I'm not manipulating anything...if you think it's a slam-dunk case why all the fuss?

I did a little research on contract law and I'm just stating what I found. These things among others are what the lawyers will argue. Apparently, I struck a nerve and you have no good arguments against it so you instead turn to ad hominem attacks.
Mmhmm

https://psychcentral.com/blog/psychology-self/2018/07/narcissist-delusion

Good day.
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Old 05-26-2021 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Mmhmm

https://psychcentral.com/blog/psychology-self/2018/07/narcissist-delusion

Good day.
A GUIDE TO CONTRACT INTERPRETATION

https://www.reedsmith.com/files/uplo...July_2014_.pdf

Good day to you as well.
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