35 Large RJs coming back?
05-26-2021 | 06:50 PM
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Even if your right, and it has to be incorporated by the Delta PWA that doesn’t mean the DALPA position would be allowed to refuse a substitution.
You’d have to find fault with the substitution and negotiate in good faith.
Of course a legal substitution wouldn’t be a company like CapeAir. You’d be restricted to demonstrating that the Compass pilot contract is/was superior to the 9E contract.
There won’t be any notes that if Compass shuts down a quo pro quo substitution can be refused for the sole purpose of adding value/equity to the Delta pilots PWA. DAL is a party to the agreement and a loss of equity for them is not spelled out or implied.
An arbitrator can easily say you have to approve of the substitution, and that the jets can fly until a fair, quid pro quo substitution is made mathematically. He can later decide who’s not playing ball should an additional issue come up.
You’d have to find fault with the substitution and negotiate in good faith.
Of course a legal substitution wouldn’t be a company like CapeAir. You’d be restricted to demonstrating that the Compass pilot contract is/was superior to the 9E contract.
There won’t be any notes that if Compass shuts down a quo pro quo substitution can be refused for the sole purpose of adding value/equity to the Delta pilots PWA. DAL is a party to the agreement and a loss of equity for them is not spelled out or implied.
An arbitrator can easily say you have to approve of the substitution, and that the jets can fly until a fair, quid pro quo substitution is made mathematically. He can later decide who’s not playing ball should an additional issue come up.
WHEREAS Delta and the Association incorporated Letter 2006-14 of the NWA CBA into the PWA as part of the Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement in connection with the merger of Delta and Northwest Airlines, Inc., and
WHEREAS Compass, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Delta, was purchased by Trans States Holdings, Inc. on July 1, 2010 and is no longer an “affiliate” of Delta, and
WHEREAS the parties desire to reach an agreement on the continuation of both flow up and flow down between Delta and Compass in light of the recent sale of Compass.
LOA 9 was a one time deal to address the sale of compass not a universal flow provision. It is dead and no longer applies. LOA 9 was the agreement to continue the flow, it is an example of the exception 2 rule and is itself evidence that an additional agreement is needed to continue the flow. The cessation occurred and the flow has ended, therefore 35 RJs are to be removed.
05-26-2021 | 07:03 PM
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It appears Capt. B's letter asserting a false claim to the 35 additional super-premium-longbody-regional-jets did something that MEC Chairmen have mostly failed to do - unify the pilot group. The request for SCOPE informational picketing is going forward to the MEC in June.
Wish I had thought to request the MEC pay for hotel rooms for any Endeavor pilots who wish to fly out and attend. The answer to this "problem" is to either flow the pilots who operate these jets to Delta, as Delta pilots, or give the entire Endeavor list Delta numbers and let them bid into mainline equipment as their seniority holds it. If the company doesn't like the turnover on the RJ's then they just need to pay the RJ types more.
Savings can come through staff reductions of the managers who maintain the redundant certificate(s).
Wish I had thought to request the MEC pay for hotel rooms for any Endeavor pilots who wish to fly out and attend. The answer to this "problem" is to either flow the pilots who operate these jets to Delta, as Delta pilots, or give the entire Endeavor list Delta numbers and let them bid into mainline equipment as their seniority holds it. If the company doesn't like the turnover on the RJ's then they just need to pay the RJ types more.
Savings can come through staff reductions of the managers who maintain the redundant certificate(s).
05-26-2021 | 07:11 PM
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It appears Capt. B's letter asserting a false claim to the 35 additional super-premium-longbody-regional-jets did something that MEC Chairmen have mostly failed to do - unify the pilot group. The request for SCOPE informational picketing is going forward to the MEC in June.
Wish I had thought to request the MEC pay for hotel rooms for any Endeavor pilots who wish to fly out and attend. The answer to this "problem" is to either flow the pilots who operate these jets to Delta, as Delta pilots, or give the entire Endeavor list Delta numbers and let them bid into mainline equipment as their seniority holds it. If the company doesn't like the turnover on the RJ's then they just need to pay the RJ types more.
Savings can come through staff reductions of the managers who maintain the redundant certificate(s).
Wish I had thought to request the MEC pay for hotel rooms for any Endeavor pilots who wish to fly out and attend. The answer to this "problem" is to either flow the pilots who operate these jets to Delta, as Delta pilots, or give the entire Endeavor list Delta numbers and let them bid into mainline equipment as their seniority holds it. If the company doesn't like the turnover on the RJ's then they just need to pay the RJ types more.
Savings can come through staff reductions of the managers who maintain the redundant certificate(s).
05-26-2021 | 07:33 PM
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It appears Capt. B's letter asserting a false claim to the 35 additional super-premium-longbody-regional-jets did something that MEC Chairmen have mostly failed to do - unify the pilot group. The request for SCOPE informational picketing is going forward to the MEC in June.
Wish I had thought to request the MEC pay for hotel rooms for any Endeavor pilots who wish to fly out and attend. The answer to this "problem" is to either flow the pilots who operate these jets to Delta, as Delta pilots, or give the entire Endeavor list Delta numbers and let them bid into mainline equipment as their seniority holds it. If the company doesn't like the turnover on the RJ's then they just need to pay the RJ types more.
Savings can come through staff reductions of the managers who maintain the redundant certificate(s).
Wish I had thought to request the MEC pay for hotel rooms for any Endeavor pilots who wish to fly out and attend. The answer to this "problem" is to either flow the pilots who operate these jets to Delta, as Delta pilots, or give the entire Endeavor list Delta numbers and let them bid into mainline equipment as their seniority holds it. If the company doesn't like the turnover on the RJ's then they just need to pay the RJ types more.
Savings can come through staff reductions of the managers who maintain the redundant certificate(s).
05-26-2021 | 07:36 PM
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05-26-2021 | 07:36 PM
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If lunch is what it takes to get you and 100 of your 9E pilot friends there, I'll hire a food truck tomorrow.
05-26-2021 | 07:38 PM
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05-26-2021 | 07:59 PM
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05-26-2021 | 08:02 PM
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05-26-2021 | 08:31 PM
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Delta Update:
ALPA will officially file a MEC grievance to halt the operation of RJs over 188, stating:
"Delta's management kept our most junior pilots on roller coaster ride for months, threatening furloughs while operating excess RJs".
Source: Email to members.
Looks like ALPA wants to ground 9E. Way to go guys.
ALPA will officially file a MEC grievance to halt the operation of RJs over 188, stating:
"Delta's management kept our most junior pilots on roller coaster ride for months, threatening furloughs while operating excess RJs".
Source: Email to members.
Looks like ALPA wants to ground 9E. Way to go guys.
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