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05-27-2021 | 05:45 AM

#821

Dogecoin

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Originally Posted by PilotBases

Why are we even getting heated over a staple that isn’t going to happen? I’d argue Delta is more opposed to a staple/integration than any pilot would be, from a cost perspective. Then you have the MX, FAs etc, far reaching beyond just pilot matters. Flow gets pilots off the top, helps recruitment, and is limited to one work group. Easy and tidy for them.

Why does flow help recruitment if new hires aren't even eligible?

05-27-2021 | 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogecoin

Why does flow help recruitment if new hires aren't even eligible?

Are new hires not eligible for the flow LOA that was just signed?

05-27-2021 | 05:51 AM

#823

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Are new hires not eligible for the flow LOA that was just signed?

No they are not. It only includes current pilots on the seniority list at the date of signing.

05-27-2021 | 05:53 AM

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Mesabah

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

If management decides to merge the two airlines 9E would be very foolish to accept a staple. The worst they can do is a staple so why would you not go to arbitration especially given the factors the arbitrator will use.

I would accept a staple in a heartbeat, even more-so, I would fight to be on the merger committee to make sure it happens. The reason is an arbitrated list would lead to massive fences. In fact, a straight staple without fences is actually the best possible outcome in that situation.

05-27-2021 | 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogecoin

No they are not. It only includes current pilots on the seniority list at the date of signing.

wow, did not think that was the case. thanks for the info

05-27-2021 | 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

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05-27-2021 | 06:02 AM

#827

Mesabah

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

wow, did not think that was the case. thanks for the info

What happened there is that the flow agreement is exactly worded as LOA 9, there would need to be an actual new LOA to include new hires.

05-27-2021 | 06:04 AM

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I think a straight staple with "EDV cannot be displaced for xx months" (but are free to bid legacy DAL planes/bases) would work. Senior EDV guys can stay put in base/domicile of choice, provided they stay on plane they came in with.

I might bid 900 CAPT at DAL rates if it meant I didn't commute.