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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogecoin
It doesn't say that anywhere.

A merger is a pipe dream but it is a far better idea than the flow and contract extension we are having forced on us by the MEC
What is wrong with a staple? Put a 3-5 year fence, problem solved. Keeping seniority while moving into another ALPA carrier is a pipe dream and delusional at best.
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
A staple is illegal, so give up on that, unless McCaskill-Bond is different than I remember. Also the company wouldn't be wild at the staple because the pilots would come over with their longevity (30 year edv becomes 30 year delta pay) so you'd have to fight them on it.
McCaskill-Bond only applies the Allegheny Mohawk LPPs to mergers with different unions or non union groups involved. If we merged with Delta we would use ALPA merger policy. As I previously mentioned if our MEC made a backroom deal that stapled us to the bottom of the list I would be one of the first to join a DFR lawsuit against ALPA
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
The PWA states there is a 15 year fence? I’d be okay with a 5 year fence. 9E will not merge with Delta.
Then why are you on our forum spamming us from a troll account with statements like this?


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A staple should be negotiated. Has DALPA suggested a staple?
This whole conversation is absurd.
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogecoin
McCaskill-Bond only applies the Allegheny Mohawk LPPs to mergers with different unions or non union groups involved. If we merged with Delta we would use ALPA merger policy. As I previously mentioned if our MEC made a backroom deal that stapled us to the bottom of the list I would be one of the first to join a DFR lawsuit against ALPA
Serious question, what do you expect to happen then? Where does your #1 pilot go on an integrated seniority list?
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Then why are you on our forum spamming us from a troll account with statements like this?




This whole conversation is absurd.
How am I trolling? I’m simply suggesting a merger will not happen. I went through that with ASA and it was a disaster.
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
How am I trolling? I’m simply suggesting a merger will not happen. I went through that with ASA and it was a disaster.
Us at Endeavor would have to make sure we don’t botch a merger like you guys did at ASA
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogecoin
Us at Endeavor would have to make sure we don’t botch a merger like you guys did at ASA
You mean the pilot group that ****ed up the three way between Colgan, Pinnacle and Mesaba? That pilot group? Until you’ve been through a merger yourself, save it.
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JacksonThunder
How am I trolling? I’m simply suggesting a merger will not happen. I went through that with ASA and it was a disaster.
No, you aren’t. Anyone who has read your posts, since you created this account less than a month ago, has seen you do nothing more than advocate to be brought up to mainline. Somehow, some way, ANY way. You are a troll and everyone here knows it.

If you really believe a merger won’t happen, why post at all? This whole discussion is moot. A merged SL won’t happen, and all it does is rile up both pilot groups for no reason.
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dogecoin
We are entitled to a merger under ALPA merger policy where we would given better seniority than being stapled at the bottom of the list. There would not be 15 year fences like Mesabah is suggesting, possibly 5 years at the most to protect our senior captains from being displaced by some junior Delta FOs.

You are not entitled to a merger.. a staple is a grace.. tired of 9e thinking they are owed anything. Pay your dues earn your spot like the rest of us. Interview and get your time. To think your owed a merger with mainline is absurd.
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Old 05-27-2021 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Serious question, what do you expect to happen then? Where does your #1 pilot go on an integrated seniority list?
waiting for this answer
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