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Old 10-25-2022 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Every time I say “it won’t happen,” it happens haha. It’s a crazy time for this industry! But I do agree, the 330 is the most senior FO position by a long shot and it takes a 2018/2019 hire to be the plug in any base. There’s a reason for that! Do you know how many more NEOs we have coming?
According to 10K at the EOY (2021) we have 8 next year and 7 in 2024. So 15 in next 2 years.
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Old 10-25-2022 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimguy
I guess now that the 350 is popping up, and with more on the way, would junior reserve still project to be an eternity? I’m a nov 29th Indoc class for reference.
Funny thing is the junior guys couldn’t even hold reserve in Sep or Oct. that’s generally how it goes on widebody fleets. Hard to say now with so much movement and new hires if that will stay the same but our reserve QOL is really good and especially for widebody fleets. If you were on reserve it might be a better lifestyle and paycheck than being a line holder, truthfully. This isn’t United, don’t worry lol
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Old 10-25-2022 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimguy
I guess now that the 350 is popping up, and with more on the way, would junior reserve still project to be an eternity? I’m a nov 29th Indoc class for reference.
I wouldn't go to the 350 expecting to get reserve consistently. Looking at the Nov skeds, 20 of the bottom 30 had schedules, including the last 2 plugs. Reserve was dispersed pretty evenly throughout the list.

Lots of JNB, SCL and ICN for the junior lineholders though. A few had some HNL layovers as well.
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Old 10-25-2022 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
I wouldn't go to the 350 expecting to get reserve consistently. Looking at the Nov skeds, 20 of the bottom 30 had schedules, including the last 2 plugs. Reserve was dispersed pretty evenly throughout the list.

Lots of JNB, SCL and ICN for the junior lineholders though. A few had some HNL layovers as well.
Gotcha, yeah having a chance at the 350 isn’t something I originally anticipated, but might be a good chance to scratch the big plane/ international itch before having kids. But if someone said that the 73N is a lot of island stuff and not forever at the bottom, I’d strongly consider that as well.

I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
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Old 10-25-2022 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimguy
Gotcha, yeah having a chance at the 350 isn’t something I originally anticipated, but might be a good chance to scratch the big plane/ international itch before having kids. But if someone said that the 73N is a lot of island stuff and not forever at the bottom, I’d strongly consider that as well.

I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
Yes, in fact you can actually see exactly how someone bids (in PBS) if you like the kind of results they got. It's all listed in the composite reports after every months bid results are posted.

I don't fly the 350 so haven't followed the seasonality of it, but other WB/international heavy planes (765, 330) have seasonality in them whereas the summers are very busy and not so much in the winter. Sometimes in the past in the winter on the 765 when fully manned, over 1/2 the FO's may be on reserve, then during summer when the ALV is high (as is the RSV guarantee), a junior 765 pilot couldn't get reserve unless in the top 1/2 of category.

Welcome aboard, and life can be stressful but good with options.
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Old 10-25-2022 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
Yes, in fact you can actually see exactly how someone bids (in PBS) if you like the kind of results they got. It's all listed in the composite reports after every months bid results are posted.

I don't fly the 350 so haven't followed the seasonality of it, but other WB/international heavy planes (765, 330) have seasonality in them whereas the summers are very busy and not so much in the winter. Sometimes in the past in the winter on the 765 when fully manned, over 1/2 the FO's may be on reserve, then during summer when the ALV is high (as is the RSV guarantee), a junior 765 pilot couldn't get reserve unless in the top 1/2 of category.

Welcome aboard, and life can be stressful but good with options.
Thanks! And yeah, just like any of these places, it’s just a matter of learning the system
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Old 10-25-2022 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimguy
Gotcha, yeah having a chance at the 350 isn’t something I originally anticipated, but might be a good chance to scratch the big plane/ international itch before having kids. But if someone said that the 73N is a lot of island stuff and not forever at the bottom, I’d strongly consider that as well.

I take it, that once on property, I might have a chance to see some bid awards before submitting my actual bid myself?
I think most of the 73N (at least out of ATL) are turns (or at least not layovers). NYC may be different.

You bid for airframe before going to class. I think the Tuesday before. If you have any friends already at Delta you should consult with them beforehand and and come up with a bid ahead of time.
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Old 10-25-2022 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by KnownTraveler;[url=tel:3519701
3519701]So what was the awards breakdown for the most recent class?
anyone know?
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Old 10-25-2022 | 11:43 AM
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I can’t speak to the 737 in ATL, but the 320 used to have a fair amount of Caribbean overnights. Since Covid, it seems a lot of those are turns or built into longer trips. So you don’t overnight. 😓
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Old 10-25-2022 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by schwifty
I think most of the 73N (at least out of ATL) are turns (or at least not layovers). NYC may be different.

You bid for airframe before going to class. I think the Tuesday before. If you have any friends already at Delta you should consult with them beforehand and and come up with a bid ahead of time.
Only ATL and LAX crews on the 73N do MEX, and ATL seems to get a lot of the Punta Cana layovers.
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