Well I think we should hire Spirit pilots and slot them in on the seniority list by their DOH at Spirit. And I’m willing to give up greenslips to get it.

 

That's understandable but giving that up is insanity without replacing it with batch sizes.

I'm f-ing sick of ARCOS and would rather go back to the way it was.

 

Making it easier to toggle on/off would likely clear up many (admittedly not all) of the issues with auto accept. OR it could be fixed by going back to reasonable batch sizes and/or going all the way back to calling one pilot at a time.

 

Pretty sure even the Spirit pilots would be ****ed at us for doing this if they learned what was given up here.

 

Exactly. It’s completely absurd to suggest that a unionized work group would entertain concessions for the possibility of hiring new employees.

This whole discussion is silly anyway. It started with a sarcastic, unrealistic remark.

 

My son works at Spirit too. I'm concerned for his career but not enough to give up auto accept.

 

A wise men once said, "Well, Clark, those kids can fend for themselves....."

 

agree. The air line ran just fine back when skeds called pilots one at a time to fill trips. Heck, many times we had earlier notice of the event and both sides could plan ahead. Maybe we could just go back to that.

most of us have lived through multiple panaceas of ‘this new technology’ that will ‘make everything better’, when looking back it really just made us more frantic and served to delay decisions until the very last minute. Maybe we can help be the catalyst to help the company save itself from itself and execute scheduling adjustments further in advance.

Back on topic: I was hopeful in June and July that dal would start new hire classes this fall until I learned of the borderline irrational reason for delaying training just to post a profitable year 100. A survey of most long-term employees might show that we’d be happy to have a ‘normal’ year 100 and go for super-duper profitability in year 101 when we don’t have to eat the cost of a major safety incident in February. Oh and also an economic freakout based on questionable motives.

 

I’m not so sure it has as much to do with posting “the most profitable year ever!” as it does with the fact that there are not nearly the number of planned deliveries happening.

-350X delayed at least a year
-321NEOs are coming, but a lot slower than originally planned
-330NEO deliveries winding down
-MAX10s delayed until who the hell even knows

…all while still sending 763ERs and some 752s to the desert.

What do we need to hire for other than attrition plus a little extra?

 

Is training really that costly they don't wanna hire more this year to keep the spreadsheet green?

How expensive is it really? Don't we own the sims and already have the instructors on payroll? Aren't we paying the light bill for that SIM to sit idle anyways? I seriously want to understand because it makes no sense at surface level.