New Hire Class Drops
#5901
Line Holder
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The results of the December Advance Entitlement (AE) have been published. IAW the PWA 22.E.10, NH's can only be offered positions that were unbid by pilots already on the seniority list. As such, by my crayon math, this is my best guess for available unbid vacancies which can be offered to the early Jan Indoc class(es)*:
7ER (757/767 'classic')
- NYC: 30
73N
- ATL: 15
- LAX: 7
- NYC: 25
- SEA: 8
320
- DTW: 20
- NYC: 10
- SEA: 0
- SLC: 2
220
- NYC: 15
717
- DTW: 25
Total: 157
* When a pilot bids out of a category, it offsets one pilot who bids in. The net of the posted vacancies are available to NH's. Each new AE resets the list, so the late Jan classes can only be offered unbid positions from the Jan AE, which will close/publish around the 15/16th of Jan, give or take.
7ER (757/767 'classic')
- NYC: 30
73N
- ATL: 15
- LAX: 7
- NYC: 25
- SEA: 8
320
- DTW: 20
- NYC: 10
- SEA: 0
- SLC: 2
220
- NYC: 15
717
- DTW: 25
Total: 157
* When a pilot bids out of a category, it offsets one pilot who bids in. The net of the posted vacancies are available to NH's. Each new AE resets the list, so the late Jan classes can only be offered unbid positions from the Jan AE, which will close/publish around the 15/16th of Jan, give or take.
#5902
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I'm not exactly sure on the language and if it specifically has to be offered as an open position on the AE, BUT, if there were zero backfills for positions that were bid out, it's entirely probable they chose not to backfill which means those positions were not "unbid" and therefore not eligible for new hires.
#5903
Roll’n Thunder
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#5904
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2023
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Depends. If there are no backfills because no one bid those positions then yes, they can be offered to new hires. If there were people (even just one person really) who had eligible bids in for those positions but the company chose not to award them then they cannot go to new hires.
#5906
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2023
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I was in a very similar situation two years ago. Half a dozen, maybe more of us got NYC220 in Oct 23, and several bid to SLC/SEA and received it before training was over. Results may vary, but once you're in a fleet, it is easier to get a base change, including a backfill, because no training in required. Good luck!
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