Council 44 Recall
05-07-2021, 04:11 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Every single items management wants they favor.
Even as we speak.
Call them. Ask them if they support Patrick Burns memo. More 76 seat RJs for Endeavor.
Don’t let them talk in circles. Make them write down their position in written form. They never ever will:
Even as we speak.
Call them. Ask them if they support Patrick Burns memo. More 76 seat RJs for Endeavor.
Don’t let them talk in circles. Make them write down their position in written form. They never ever will:
If you are posting falsehoods in support of recall maybe you can explain why B B (can't use names but rhymes with Cartel) wants Brent out. Thought that they were friendlies, allies. I can not keep track of f-NWA political intrigue. Kindly provide an update if you are so inclined.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 05-07-2021 at 04:33 AM.
05-07-2021, 04:24 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
I'm torn on this recall. The lack of a meeting and the perception that the lack of a meeting is only to hold onto their positions really bothers me. KO was an ardent TA1 supporter, I voted against him 2 years ago and I'd love to see him never hold an ALPA position again. You can't ever be THAT wrong and be allowed a position of authority again, it grates on my nerves that C44 elected such a clown.
It constantly surprises me that pilots, professionals who are sticklers for compliance with all sorts of regulations (some of which are mostly nonsense) figure that we should just blow off Georgia regulations on meeting size.
It might come across that I'm some superfan of C44 Reps, I'm not. Politicians come and go. What matters is the work that gets done. We've had 4 LOA's directed and passed during COVID. Most of us have either kept our jobs or moved up in relative seniority. As terrible as this pandemic was, it wasn't that bad for us, especially given our company lost $12,500,000,000.00 last year. The C44 Reps didn't simply pander or seek popularity. They made pragmatic decisions to best protect the pilots they represent.
New elections are in October.
05-07-2021, 04:38 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Many of the people who voted yes for TA1 negotiated and worked on C16, which passed by 82%.
It constantly surprises me that pilots, professionals who are sticklers for compliance with all sorts of regulations (some of which are mostly nonsense) figure that we should just blow off Georgia regulations on meeting size.
It might come across that I'm some superfan of C44 Reps, I'm not. Politicians come and go. What matters is the work that gets done. We've had 4 LOA's directed and passed during COVID. Most of us have either kept our jobs or moved up in relative seniority. As terrible as this pandemic was, it wasn't that bad for us, especially given our company lost $12,500,000,000.00 last year. The C44 Reps didn't simply pander or seek popularity. They made pragmatic decisions to best protect the pilots they represent.
New elections are in October.
It constantly surprises me that pilots, professionals who are sticklers for compliance with all sorts of regulations (some of which are mostly nonsense) figure that we should just blow off Georgia regulations on meeting size.
It might come across that I'm some superfan of C44 Reps, I'm not. Politicians come and go. What matters is the work that gets done. We've had 4 LOA's directed and passed during COVID. Most of us have either kept our jobs or moved up in relative seniority. As terrible as this pandemic was, it wasn't that bad for us, especially given our company lost $12,500,000,000.00 last year. The C44 Reps didn't simply pander or seek popularity. They made pragmatic decisions to best protect the pilots they represent.
New elections are in October.
05-07-2021, 04:41 AM
#34
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Position: Capt
Posts: 2,023
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
The Atlanta Reps directed 3 LOAs.
Those 3 LOA's were ratified by the pilots.
Nobody was furloughed. Most everyone got a better job.
IMHO a resolution of appreciation is more appropriate than a recall.
Those 3 LOA's were ratified by the pilots.
Nobody was furloughed. Most everyone got a better job.
IMHO a resolution of appreciation is more appropriate than a recall.
05-07-2021, 04:45 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Credit where credit is due, nobody lost their job because the government passed CARES, CARES 2, and CARES 3. The company lost billions but they didn't spend a dime on salaries. Furlough WARN notices went out and would've been executed if not for Uncle Sugar.
05-07-2021, 04:48 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
Credit where credit is due, nobody lost their job because the government passed CARES, CARES 2, and CARES 3. The company lost billions but they didn't spend a dime on salaries. Furlough WARN notices went out and would've been executed if not for Uncle Sugar.
05-07-2021, 05:31 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Irony alert. At the same time you accuse others of listening to rumors and not contacting the reps for the real story, you do exactly the same.
BB is a National Officer. He will take your phone call.
BB is a National Officer. He will take your phone call.
05-07-2021, 06:26 AM
#38
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Position: ATL 7ER A
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Every single items management wants they favor.
Even as we speak.
Call them. Ask them if they support Patrick Burns memo. More 76 seat RJs for Endeavor.
Don’t let them talk in circles. Make them write down their position in written form. They never ever will:
Even as we speak.
Call them. Ask them if they support Patrick Burns memo. More 76 seat RJs for Endeavor.
Don’t let them talk in circles. Make them write down their position in written form. They never ever will:
I oppose the company memorandum, and wholeheartedly support the Master Chairman’s decision to respond with a grievance. We must resist all forms of outsourcing, the primary task of a union is to preserve the jobs of its members.
Kevin O’Mahoney
05-07-2021, 07:33 AM
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Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by Starcheck102
I oppose the company memorandum, and wholeheartedly support the Master Chairman’s decision to respond with a grievance. We must resist all forms of outsourcing, the primary task of a union is to preserve the jobs of its members.
Kevin O’Mahoney
Kevin O’Mahoney
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