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DryClutch 07-10-2022 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by canuckav (Post 3457601)
In regards to logbooks for the interview:

I have old fashioned logbooks. No digital programs. I've been at my current company for many years now, and they track my flights and send me an Excel spreadsheet once a month with all the information.

For the past few years, I've been taking the cumulative totals from the spreadsheets and make one entry per month in my logbook. So each of the previous five log page represents one calendar year and has twelve entries based off the spreadsheets.

Will this be viewed poorly in the interview? Should I start a new book and enter the past five years of individual entries?

Thank you for your time!

In my opinion I think you'll be fine as long as whatever you have is neat and consistent. At the time of my interview(s) over 8500+ hrs in all paper logs I had swapped back and forth between logging flights in tenths vs hrs/mins, then back to tenths (not uber consistent I suppose). Only logged a daily block total, stopped logging tail numbers years ago, really never logged actual IMC time the last 15 years or so. I admit it, I got relatively lazy over the last decade+ in wanting to keep up with a crazy detailed logbook. No one remotely cared and said my logbooks looked really nice. What I did have was neat and tidy though. I got the job along with the guy who logged every leg/tail number/minute of IMC time.

canuckav 07-10-2022 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by DryClutch (Post 3457876)
In my opinion I think you'll be fine as long as whatever you have is neat and consistent. At the time of my interview(s) over 8500+ hrs in all paper logs I had swapped back and forth between logging flights in tenths vs hrs/mins, then back to tenths (not uber consistent I suppose). Only logged a daily block total, stopped logging tail numbers years ago, really never logged actual IMC time the last 15 years or so. I admit it, I got relatively lazy over the last decade+ in wanting to keep up with a crazy detailed logbook. No one remotely cared and said my logbooks looked really nice. What I did have was neat and tidy though. I got the job along with the guy who logged every leg/tail number/minute of IMC time.

Thank you very much DryClutch, exactly what I was looking for! 👍

Kangoala 07-10-2022 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by jrav8r (Post 3457809)
Any specific prep company that has had good success? Looking at several right now. Also what fleet in ATL or MSP has the best seniority progression to line holder with weekends off? I’m assuming 717 in ATL but not sure about MSP? Thanks for the responses in advance.

Can’t speak to success rate as a percentage or anything, but I used Spitfire Elite and loved it. They use a combination of self-study academics and group “hot-seat” sessions to prepare you for both the HR and Psych interview. I can’t recommend them highly enough.

DryClutch 07-10-2022 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by canuckav (Post 3457921)
Thank you very much DryClutch, exactly what I was looking for! 👍

No problem, yea you should be good. Although someone somewhere out there might see my logbooks and cite me for lack of attention to detail, and fair enough I suppose. So if I had to advise a younger me i'd say try to be slightly OCD about them in case you get the guy on the panel who really cares about every tail number and IMC time logged.....

jetlagclub 07-10-2022 01:22 PM

Can someone please give a rough timeline of post-CJO. Took the assesment and felt good. I need to plan for some life events.
From what I read around here it goes like this:
1.Assesment invite
2.Interview invite email
3.Schedule interview date. (roughly 5 weeks wait)
4.Interview date. CJOs offered on the spot.
How does it go from here?
5.Indoc date email?
6. Indoc?
7.wait for SIMs?
How long is indoc? How long are SIMs? And what are the wait times for SIMs?(I know it depends on assigned fleet, but rough/average estimate)
Trying to find out how long I would have to be away from home for indoc/training (*IF*i get the job). Not that I mind, but need info for planning.

Thanks in advance!

FreedomFlier 07-11-2022 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by jetlagclub (Post 3458236)
Can someone please give a rough timeline of post-CJO. Took the assesment and felt good. I need to plan for some life events.
From what I read around here it goes like this:
1.Assesment invite
2.Interview invite email
3.Schedule interview date. (roughly 5 weeks wait)
4.Interview date. CJOs offered on the spot.
How does it go from here?
5.Indoc date email?
6. Indoc?
7.wait for SIMs?
How long is indoc? How long are SIMs? And what are the wait times for SIMs?(I know it depends on assigned fleet, but rough/average estimate)
Trying to find out how long I would have to be away from home for indoc/training (*IF*i get the job). Not that I mind, but need info for planning.

Thanks in advance!


After CJO it is currently about a 7-8 week wait to get the email notification for a class date. The class date will be about 6-7 weeks after that email is received. I have not started training yet, so I cannot speak to the accuracy of current training timeline but my buddies going through start indoc on a Tuesday and then have weekend off and finish that following Thursday. After indoc I have heard anywhere from a 2 week to 2 month wait for aircraft training depending on fleet. Aircraft training and sims are roughly just over a month from what I understand. Others may be able to correct me on the accuracy of the training timeline but I think that's a good rough estimate. It is all positive space to and from training as well so can go home if you have a few days off in between events.

jetlagclub 07-11-2022 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by FreedomFlier (Post 3458573)
After CJO it is currently about a 7-8 week wait to get the email notification for a class date. The class date will be about 6-7 weeks after that email is received. I have not started training yet, so I cannot speak to the accuracy of current training timeline but my buddies going through start indoc on a Tuesday and then have weekend off and finish that following Thursday. After indoc I have heard anywhere from a 2 week to 2 month wait for aircraft training depending on fleet. Aircraft training and sims are roughly just over a month from what I understand. Others may be able to correct me on the accuracy of the training timeline but I think that's a good rough estimate. It is all positive space to and from training as well so can go home if you have a few days off in between events.

So basically about 14-16 weeks from interview to starting real training (excluding indoc which sounds like a week only)
Are they still paying hotel for indoc only? Or for the whole training?
Thank you!

TheDuster 07-11-2022 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by jetlagclub (Post 3458590)
So basically about 14-16 weeks from interview to starting real training (excluding indoc which sounds like a week only)
Are they still paying hotel for indoc only? Or for the whole training?
Thank you!

All hotels are paid for for the duration of training.

navyrhinodriver 07-11-2022 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by FreedomFlier (Post 3458573)
After CJO it is currently about a 7-8 week wait to get the email notification for a class date. The class date will be about 6-7 weeks after that email is received. I have not started training yet, so I cannot speak to the accuracy of current training timeline but my buddies going through start indoc on a Tuesday and then have weekend off and finish that following Thursday. After indoc I have heard anywhere from a 2 week to 2 month wait for aircraft training depending on fleet. Aircraft training and sims are roughly just over a month from what I understand. Others may be able to correct me on the accuracy of the training timeline but I think that's a good rough estimate. It is all positive space to and from training as well so can go home if you have a few days off in between events.

I thought Indoc started on Tuesday and ended the following Wednesday? Do I just have bad gouge or did something change recently?

TheDuster 07-11-2022 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by navyrhinodriver (Post 3458965)
I thought Indoc started on Tuesday and ended the following Wednesday? Do I just have bad gouge or did something change recently?

The winging event is Wednesday night and classes finish up mid-afternoon on Thursday.


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