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Old 07-20-2023, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
Short answer, no

long answer, You are hired with a 2 year seat lock starting day 1 of indoc, it can be broken for 3 reasons

1) you take your first upgrade at DL, in which case your new seat lock is added to your old seat lock.

2) DL opens a new category and you are awarded it when it opens, you will just have a new seat lock, the time from your old does not add to the new seat lock

3) after 1 year you are unable to hold your current aircraft in your desired base, you can change planes with the remainder of your new seat lock added to your new hire seat lock.

the company is free to let you break a seat lock if they wish (they don’t normally do this, but they can) also if you are displaced you can go wherever your seniority can hold and will not incur a seat lock.
Okay understand thanks! Do you know what the flying is like between 73N in ATL vs NYC or the 320B in ATL vs NYC.
I would be commuting to either base since I don't want to move
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Old 07-20-2023, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by HyperionR6 View Post
Is it possible to swap to a different airplane during training. For example, awarded the 320 but wanted to put a bid to get the 330?
Or do you have to wait till your 2 year seat lock expires before you can swap
Assuming you are not upgrading, you can change planes as a new hire on the first AE that closes after your one year anniversary under two scenarios:

First, you can if the new plane you desire is in a different base AND your current plane is not based there

Second, you can if the new plan you desire is in a different base AND you bid your current aircraft in that new base with no restrictions AND you cannot hold your current aircraft in that new base but you can hold the new aircraft.

In either scenario the remainder of your new hire seat lock gets added to your new seat lock for changing planes.

In your specific example of getting the 320 assigned in indoc and wanting the 330, that is basically impossible to do until your 2 year new hire seat lock expires. The 320 is in every base, so scenario 1 will not apply. And for the second scenario, there is no situation where someone in the right seat of the 320 would be able to hold right seat on the 330 but not hold right seat 320 in the same base.

The last caveat is that the company can break any lock at their discretion, so bid whatever you want regardless of your seat lock, but that tends to be very, very rare so don't count on it by any means.
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Old 07-20-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jflyer86 View Post
For reference, this week they sent out invites for 29 August, so about 6 weeks ahead of class start date right now.
Is there a group already for the 29th?
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:08 PM
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Ok, need a little advice from you all, I have my App in here @ Delta. Its been in for awhile, I have 14K hours - 3 types, was a Regional lifer Guy. Absolutely nothing in my back round! No 121 training failures, dui etc. BUT I haven't flown a plane for 5+ years. So lets assume that's whats holding me back for an interview. Without burning a bridge using some outfit to get current again, what would be some recommendations that could possibly attract an interview? Obviously 121/135 would be great, would flying a light twin around/glider/float plane rating be any help? Any thoughts would be helpful and Not burning some place. Thanks
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexisTX View Post
Ok, need a little advice from you all, I have my App in here @ Delta. Its been in for awhile, I have 14K hours - 3 types, was a Regional lifer Guy. Absolutely nothing in my back round! No 121 training failures, dui etc. BUT I haven't flown a plane for 5+ years. So lets assume that's whats holding me back for an interview. Without burning a bridge using some outfit to get current again, what would be some recommendations that could possibly attract an interview? Obviously 121/135 would be great, would flying a light twin around/glider/float plane rating be any help? Any thoughts would be helpful and Not burning some place. Thanks
I mean the safe answer really is “121/135”. Beyond that I’m not sure if/how much any light twin time moves your app up the stack. Recency can only help, just not sure what the magic number of hours is before it stops helping.
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Old 07-20-2023, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexisTX View Post
Ok, need a little advice from you all, I have my App in here @ Delta. Its been in for awhile, I have 14K hours - 3 types, was a Regional lifer Guy. Absolutely nothing in my back round! No 121 training failures, dui etc. BUT I haven't flown a plane for 5+ years. So lets assume that's whats holding me back for an interview. Without burning a bridge using some outfit to get current again, what would be some recommendations that could possibly attract an interview? Obviously 121/135 would be great, would flying a light twin around/glider/float plane rating be any help? Any thoughts would be helpful and Not burning some place. Thanks
I'd suggest going to a regional as a DEC to get current. They'll hire anyone with a pulse at this point.
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Old 07-20-2023, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotBases View Post
I mean the safe answer really is “121/135”. Beyond that I’m not sure if/how much any light twin time moves your app up the stack. Recency can only help, just not sure what the magic number of hours is before it stops helping.
I was told by a guy that does interviews that anything that's preferred but not required will move you up (I'm guessing more points in the app score). So if you haven't flown, any logable activity that keeps your skills up will help.
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Old 07-23-2023, 07:51 PM
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Hey folks, weird situation (maybe not?) Last month, I received the fix it email. I fixed what was asked of me and a week and a half later, I got another fix it email. I fixed that too. It’s been about 3 weeks since I resubmitted my app with the additional fixes. I know things are backed up, but is this normal?
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer View Post
Hey folks, weird situation (maybe not?) Last month, I received the fix it email. I fixed what was asked of me and a week and a half later, I got another fix it email. I fixed that too. It’s been about 3 weeks since I resubmitted my app with the additional fixes. I know things are backed up, but is this normal?
I would pay for app review. I got a fix it email, fixed it and never heard back and then a few months later got app review and heard back immediately. There might be something else you are missing in your app that’s not triggering the Top Tier email, that’s the next phase.
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Old 07-24-2023, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer View Post
Hey folks, weird situation (maybe not?) Last month, I received the fix it email. I fixed what was asked of me and a week and a half later, I got another fix it email. I fixed that too. It’s been about 3 weeks since I resubmitted my app with the additional fixes. I know things are backed up, but is this normal?
agree with till5 above. Even though I got the top tier and interview invite I still used an app review service after the fact. I think it really cleaned up and improved my app especially with some of the narrative sections. But also cleaned up a lot of little details I was missing. Personally did checkedandset and I’d recommend them.
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