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Gone Flying 09-26-2021 07:28 AM
Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 3300484)
It’s nice hearing this versus we’re overstaffed by 2558 pilots and the sky is falling. That was our reality this time last year.
yuup. You and me both were near the bottom of that pile too. That sucked and I’ll take this any day over this time last year.

170driver 09-26-2021 07:33 AM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3300488)
yuup. You and me both were near the bottom of that pile too. That sucked and I’ll take this any day over this time last year.

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Buck Rogers 09-26-2021 11:46 AM
Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 3300484)
It’s nice hearing this versus we’re overstaffed by 2558 pilots and the sky is falling. That was our reality this time last year.
Good point.. How fast we forget!

Buck Rogers 09-26-2021 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3300454)
That ain't happen'n. 1800 in 9 months? 200 a month plus a 400 Captain AE would make the training Dept. melt. And OE buyouts would make FOs paid better than CAs.
Maybe it can, maybe it can't. I can't control it. I will say that UAL is hiring 48 per week...don't know if they can keep up that torrid pace. At least management seems to recognize the dilemma, which is at least a step in the right direction.. The rapid rise in seniority % is a huge benefit for those close to the bottom. Depending on a/c purchases, only marginally beneficial for more senior types.

Gone Flying 09-26-2021 11:57 AM
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3300604)
Maybe it can, maybe it can't. I can't control it. I will say that UAL is hiring 48 per week...don't know if they can keep up that torrid pace. At least management seems to recognize the dilemma, which is at least a step in the right direction.. The rapid rise in seniority % is a huge benefit for those close to the bottom. Depending on a/c purchases, only marginally beneficial for more senior types.
United didn’t sideline 1700 pilots after retiring 1900 others thus forcing a colossal training churn they they only started to work on un doing after demand was already back…

It’s not that we can’t train 200/month, it’s that we cant do that on top of retraining the rest of the airline to be where they should have been 9 months ago.

the reason United is able to hire so much now is they didn’t waste all their training resources trying to keep an FA union off property. But ya know, optics and all

-“what’s a SIL”

Hawaii50 09-26-2021 11:58 AM
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3300604)
Maybe it can, maybe it can't. I can't control it. I will say that UAL is hiring 48 per week...don't know if they can keep up that torrid pace. At least management seems to recognize the dilemma, which is at least a step in the right direction.. The rapid rise in seniority % is a huge benefit for those close to the bottom. Depending on a/c purchases, only marginally beneficial for more senior types.
Its all relative. If you were in the left seat of something you liked when age 65 kicked in you got a windfall. It’s an airline career. Craziness is guaranteed.

Buck Rogers 09-26-2021 12:16 PM
Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 3300607)
Its all relative. If you were in the left seat of something you liked when age 65 kicked in you got a windfall. If not……..
So your saying rapid hiring isn't a good thing? Or you don't believe it is more beneficial for the lowest seniority guy compared to senior guys?. Maybe I'm imparting fallacious ideas to my kids. A year ago furloughs were the biggest concern for them .The massive hiring hiring doesn't affect me at all. It's a continuum. I don't think I was talking about age 65...but you can have at it if that's your flavor of the day to be upset about.

Gone Flying 09-26-2021 12:38 PM
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3300611)
So your saying rapid hiring isn't a good thing? Or you don't believe it is more beneficial for the lowest seniority guy compared to senior guys?. Maybe I'm imparting fallacious ideas to my kids. A year ago furloughs were the biggest concern for them .The massive hiring hiring doesn't affect me at all. It's a continuum. I don't think I was talking about age 65...but you can have at it if that's your flavor of the day to be upset about.
movement off the top has a greater affect on senior folks, adding to the bottom has a greater affect on jr guys. Both are good for both groups, but they are felt differently.

Buck Rogers 09-26-2021 01:06 PM
Well since we are in the Delta new hiring thread, I was attempting to talk about....well....in 2 words....new hiring... and its impact on those newly hired.

I'm prolly in agreement with the age 65 thing and the retirement thing,, but not my baliwick.

Wink 09-26-2021 02:11 PM
Do they offer classes before background checks are complete or will they get you in the first available class?


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