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Old 09-30-2021 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
So you’re saying the company is Jafar?
Is Guum the bird?
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Old 10-01-2021 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo
You can tell that the 4th floor is getting nervous when their resident apologist comes on here to rally against pro-pilot alpa advocates such as the OP.
ALPA advocate?

You mean the same Ben Stout that’s been actively trying to overthrow ALPA for years via DPA?

But free Starbucks!

Yes vote, but make sure you know what you’re voting for
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Old 10-01-2021 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
ALPA advocate?

You mean the same Ben Stout that’s been actively trying to overthrow ALPA for years via DPA?

But free Starbucks!

Yes vote, but make sure you know what you’re voting for
He still hasn't let us know when he'll be in the terminal for free Starbucks
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Old 10-01-2021 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
He still hasn't let us know when he'll be in the terminal for free Starbucks
Free beer tomorrow.
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Old 10-01-2021 | 07:28 AM
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You got one "Pilot Advocate" opening up a campaign letter offering Free Starbucks. You got another one running solely on suing the company/govt over COVID testing and other medical "Freedom" initiatives. You can't make this stuff up

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Old 10-01-2021 | 07:30 AM
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Must be.

"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL barely flying the line, if at all.

FYI, in the 35 RJs Hearing Management Council read a snippet from "The Wave", the title of the LEC Communication Updates from the "pilot advocates" of Council 16(LAX), to the arbitrator, using it as evidence against DALPA. Council 16 desires to have their style of "pilot advocacy" spread thru out the Horseshoe.

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interesting you know so much just being a line pilot. But, that’s not your end game now is it so carry on. I’m sure your making at least some sort of impression.
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Old 10-01-2021 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
You got one "Pilot Advocate" opening up a campaign letter offering Free Starbucks. You got another one running solely on suing the company/govt over COVID testing and other medical "Freedom" initiatives. You can't make this stuff up

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First time that I've ever seen an ALPA Rep try to stop a safety initiative.
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Old 10-01-2021 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Sometimes... Absolutely agree.

With these "Pilot Advocates" it's No everytime. There is no Yes in their DNA. It's just the way they're wired. They would say No if the company offered them a magic carpet ride to a cave full of Gold. Take a look at Council 16 Wave updates on Aerodocs if you want a good laugh.

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you mean the same council that has the highest approval rating from their constituents than any other council? That one?
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Old 10-01-2021 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
you mean the same council that has the highest approval rating from their constituents than any other council? That one?
So, in political questionnaires( which is what you are alluding to) ....have you even known a group to be against those that "promise" them more, bigger, and better shiznit at "no" cost to them.....you know, the rich should pay their fair share. In this case, the rich would be Delta, pitted against the poor downtrodden line pilot. ......polls can be so misleading....the underlying question is, "What is the bias of the voter"?. in this case, the will support those that promise them more even if it unsustainable or impactable.. just like politics. Sometimes polls are appropriate....sometimes...not so much...they are more insights into pipe dreams. YMMV
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Old 10-01-2021 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
you mean the same council that has the highest approval rating from their constituents than any other council? That one?
Talking big even though it yields little to no results does gain popularity in some Councils. We'll see how long that lasts. I've spoken to multiple neutral folks that worked in the MEC Admin. Apparently Council 16 Reps are hard to work with and don't acknowledge facts unless it goes along with their agenda. Lots of talk of them taking the fullest advantage of FPL as well.

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