wrong. Everything is for sale. Everything. We just have to agree on the price.

And before you start, tell me you wouldn't take $10 million in your own account to give up XXXXX.

 

Exactly. I love my job but if someone offered me $3 million after taxes to retire today I'd take it

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True. But this is NOT the hill we want to die on.

 

NFLYs are why AmEx started having clubs.

 

False narrative. I reject the premise.

First of all I reject the false lure of the massive payday for things i the first place. We will never get more than a small fraction of the value of a concession in the first place, and often we don't adequately cost the downline effects until after the fact when we're trying to negotiate to fix them. The very example you used is part of my point; there is nothing we can give that will get us 10 million each.

Secondly, there is a moral and ethical foundation that's part of our collective obligation for many things. I'm sure in the early days when pilots started to make safety gains ("schedule with safety" aftferall...) the airlines would have been happy to throw a quick 8/3/3 at them instead. You are senior to me and I will not entertain an offer by the company to remove and staple the top 10% of the list to the bottom of the list with a year 1 longevity reset to go along with it. I don't need to hear how uch "bargaining credit" we would get for something like that; the answer is no, not at any price.

For other things, like adding seats or weight to permitted types to outsource, the answer is also no at any price, however I'm fine with phrasing it as "yes but you can't afford it." 10 million per pilot sounds like a good opener on their end, but we'll also need to fix some work rules, retirement, medical, training pay and AE reform as part of a package deal. That should be the only response for that fake "Indecent Proposal" sophistry of a negotiating paradigm.

So I reject your assumption that "everything is for sale" but I'm willing to play the game. 10 Million per pilot is a good ala carte starting point, but I'll have to see the rest of their offer to see what it adds above that.

 

Aren’t all you Moakies retired?

Quit coming on here and enjoy your retirement.

 

“The past is never dead. It’s not even past. “- W Faulkner

 

If by ‘Moakie’ you mean someone who calls out bull**** FPL usage then yeah, that’s me.

Don’t you have a 30k hospitality suite to freeload at? I guess not, since your team got kicked to the curb.

Maybe go put in some time revamping the DPA website. It’s not looking very super premium.

 

Talk about a Mic drop.... LOL

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I would be careful putting your crew on a pedestal, lots of FPL and parties back in the day. Buddy was actually offered a job “helping” out on a commuter and it was trying to be sold to him by “lots of days of and FPL if you play it right”.