LEC Elections
09-29-2021, 08:14 PM
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LEC Elections
There are critical LEC elections underway right now.
C44, C20, and C81 elections are now in the general election phase.
FREE STARBUCKS IF YOU VOTE IN THE C44 LEC REP ELECTIONS
Fellow C44 pilots:
We are so close to improving our ability to have our voices heard at the MEC and the negotiating table. The results of the nomination vote clearly show that C44 is hungry for a transformation of our leadership style from one of personal ambition to one of true pilot advocacy.
We now have the opportunity to elect proven pilot advocates, some of whom have been targeted by members of the current MEC to even be fired. This is the time to pay attention.
The nomination phase of our election only resulted in 13% of the total eligible members participating in the voting process.
This level of participation will NOT give your newly elected reps the mandate they need to force your agenda upon the negotiating process with the company. We need an army behind us to accomplish your goals. You have GOT to vote; one way or the other, but VOTE.
Your collective participation will profoundly affect your career, trust me on this.
What is up with the title of this letter? It was to get your attention. If you walk up to me in the terminal and call me out on it, it’s my treat.
Fraternally,
Ben Stout
ALPA# 1269232
[email protected]
C44, C20, and C81 elections are now in the general election phase.
FREE STARBUCKS IF YOU VOTE IN THE C44 LEC REP ELECTIONS
Fellow C44 pilots:
We are so close to improving our ability to have our voices heard at the MEC and the negotiating table. The results of the nomination vote clearly show that C44 is hungry for a transformation of our leadership style from one of personal ambition to one of true pilot advocacy.
We now have the opportunity to elect proven pilot advocates, some of whom have been targeted by members of the current MEC to even be fired. This is the time to pay attention.
The nomination phase of our election only resulted in 13% of the total eligible members participating in the voting process.
This level of participation will NOT give your newly elected reps the mandate they need to force your agenda upon the negotiating process with the company. We need an army behind us to accomplish your goals. You have GOT to vote; one way or the other, but VOTE.
Your collective participation will profoundly affect your career, trust me on this.
What is up with the title of this letter? It was to get your attention. If you walk up to me in the terminal and call me out on it, it’s my treat.
Fraternally,
Ben Stout
ALPA# 1269232
[email protected]
09-30-2021, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by MJP27
Slow day on Chit Chat?
"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL barely flying the line, if at all.
FYI, in the 35 RJs Hearing Management Council read a snippet from "The Wave", the title of the LEC Communication Updates from the "pilot advocates" of Council 16(LAX), to the arbitrator, using it as evidence against DALPA. Council 16 desires to have their style of "pilot advocacy" spread thru out the Horseshoe.
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09-30-2021, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Stoutflier
There are critical LEC elections underway right now.
C44, C20, and C81 elections are now in the general election phase.
FREE STARBUCKS IF YOU VOTE IN THE C44 LEC REP ELECTIONS
Fellow C44 pilots:
We are so close to improving our ability to have our voices heard at the MEC and the negotiating table. The results of the nomination vote clearly show that C44 is hungry for a transformation of our leadership style from one of personal ambition to one of true pilot advocacy.
We now have the opportunity to elect proven pilot advocates, some of whom have been targeted by members of the current MEC to even be fired. This is the time to pay attention.
The nomination phase of our election only resulted in 13% of the total eligible members participating in the voting process.
This level of participation will NOT give your newly elected reps the mandate they need to force your agenda upon the negotiating process with the company. We need an army behind us to accomplish your goals. You have GOT to vote; one way or the other, but VOTE.
Your collective participation will profoundly affect your career, trust me on this.
What is up with the title of this letter? It was to get your attention. If you walk up to me in the terminal and call me out on it, it’s my treat.
Fraternally,
Ben Stout
ALPA# 1269232
[email protected]
C44, C20, and C81 elections are now in the general election phase.
FREE STARBUCKS IF YOU VOTE IN THE C44 LEC REP ELECTIONS
Fellow C44 pilots:
We are so close to improving our ability to have our voices heard at the MEC and the negotiating table. The results of the nomination vote clearly show that C44 is hungry for a transformation of our leadership style from one of personal ambition to one of true pilot advocacy.
We now have the opportunity to elect proven pilot advocates, some of whom have been targeted by members of the current MEC to even be fired. This is the time to pay attention.
The nomination phase of our election only resulted in 13% of the total eligible members participating in the voting process.
This level of participation will NOT give your newly elected reps the mandate they need to force your agenda upon the negotiating process with the company. We need an army behind us to accomplish your goals. You have GOT to vote; one way or the other, but VOTE.
Your collective participation will profoundly affect your career, trust me on this.
What is up with the title of this letter? It was to get your attention. If you walk up to me in the terminal and call me out on it, it’s my treat.
Fraternally,
Ben Stout
ALPA# 1269232
[email protected]
09-30-2021, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL vary flying the line, if at all.
A lot of loud idiots get in reps seats because its a popularity contest and that stuff sells. Sometimes they find out they can't process whats going on because they are too stupid, so the make up for it with cliche crap. Its embarrassing. It happens more on the rep side than other merit based volunteers, but it can happen on both.
Find reps who will talk in person or on the phone very honestly and keep the txts and emails very professional. Reps SCREW over their pilots by writing things like "hold management accountable" and "speak with actions" and other dumb ****. Pilots arent in charge, the NMB is. If the NMB is happy they let us and managers work on our own. The NMB is in our talks now, so it behooves everyone to remind their reps to act like professional adults. If your rep team are idiots and anything other than professional tell them they're screwing this up for us, and straighten up.
09-30-2021, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Must be.
"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL barely flying the line, if at all.
FYI, in the 35 RJs Hearing Management Council read a snippet from "The Wave", the title of the LEC Communication Updates from the "pilot advocates" of Council 16(LAX), to the arbitrator, using it as evidence against DALPA. Council 16 desires to have their style of "pilot advocacy" spread thru out the Horseshoe.
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"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL barely flying the line, if at all.
FYI, in the 35 RJs Hearing Management Council read a snippet from "The Wave", the title of the LEC Communication Updates from the "pilot advocates" of Council 16(LAX), to the arbitrator, using it as evidence against DALPA. Council 16 desires to have their style of "pilot advocacy" spread thru out the Horseshoe.
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09-30-2021, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo
You can tell that the 4th floor is getting nervous when their resident apologist comes on here to rally against pro-pilot alpa advocates such as the OP.
You may continue on with the "pilot advocate" rah rah rah
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09-30-2021, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Must be.
"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL barely flying the line, if at all.
FYI, in the 35 RJs Hearing Management Council read a snippet from "The Wave", the title of the LEC Communication Updates from the "pilot advocates" of Council 16(LAX), to the arbitrator, using it as evidence against DALPA. Council 16 desires to have their style of "pilot advocacy" spread thru out the Horseshoe.
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"Pilot Advocate" = Talk big, bash management every chance you get to feel good and look cool but never get anything accomplished while collecting copious amounts of FPL barely flying the line, if at all.
FYI, in the 35 RJs Hearing Management Council read a snippet from "The Wave", the title of the LEC Communication Updates from the "pilot advocates" of Council 16(LAX), to the arbitrator, using it as evidence against DALPA. Council 16 desires to have their style of "pilot advocacy" spread thru out the Horseshoe.
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09-30-2021, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Sometimes the answer is no. Not everything is negotiable.
With these "Pilot Advocates" it's No everytime. There is no Yes in their DNA. It's just the way they're wired. They would say No if the company offered them a magic carpet ride to a cave full of Gold. Take a look at Council 16 Wave updates on Aerodocs if you want a good laugh.
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09-30-2021, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Sometimes... Absolutely agree.
With these "Pilot Advocates" it's No everytime. There is no Yes in their DNA. It's just the way they're wired. They would say No if the company offered them a magic carpet ride to a cave full of Gold. Take a look at Council 16 Wave updates on Aerodocs if you want a good laugh.
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With these "Pilot Advocates" it's No everytime. There is no Yes in their DNA. It's just the way they're wired. They would say No if the company offered them a magic carpet ride to a cave full of Gold. Take a look at Council 16 Wave updates on Aerodocs if you want a good laugh.
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