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Talking big even though it yields little to no results does gain popularity in some Councils. We'll see how long that lasts. I've spoken to multiple neutral folks that worked in the MEC Admin. Apparently Council 16 Reps are hard to work with and don't acknowledge facts unless it goes along with their agenda. Lots of talk of them taking the fullest advantage of FPL as well.
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their job is to represent the wishes of their constituents. Considering they were re-elected and polling higher in satisfaction than any other council, they are doing what they were elected to do.
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The problem with DALPA as I see it is not with any particular group of Reps - its the structure. We have many well meaning folks that participate and then become totally enthralled with the FP Loss and the lifestyle, staying in union positions for years if not decades. If I were King for a day I would require all DALPA personnel to return back to the line for as long as they were serving in between DALPA gigs. Serve three years as a Rep - go to the line for the next three years. Serve 18 months in an Admin position - back to the line for 18 months minimum.
Some of these guys simply reek of desperation to avoid line flying and others lose touch with some of the day to day challenges of the Line Pilot. I always said that I wanted the DALPA gig to be good to draw the best folks, but perhaps its so good we have guys who start off with the best intentions and end up sticking in the job for self serving reasons.
Scoop - just my 2 cents
Some of these guys simply reek of desperation to avoid line flying and others lose touch with some of the day to day challenges of the Line Pilot. I always said that I wanted the DALPA gig to be good to draw the best folks, but perhaps its so good we have guys who start off with the best intentions and end up sticking in the job for self serving reasons.
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The problem with DALPA as I see it is not with any particular group of Reps - its the structure. We have many well meaning folks that participate and then become totally enthralled with the FP Loss and the lifestyle, staying in union positions for years if not decades. If I were King for a day I would require all DALPA personnel to return back to the line for as long as they were serving in between DALPA gigs. Serve three years as a Rep - go to the line for the next three years. Serve 18 months in an Admin position - back to the line for 18 months minimum.
Some of these guys simply reek of desperation to avoid line flying and others lose touch with some of the day to day challenges of the Line Pilot. I always said that I wanted the DALPA gig to be good to draw the best folks, but perhaps its so good we have guys who start off with the best intentions and end up sticking in the job for self serving reasons.
Scoop - just my 2 cents
Some of these guys simply reek of desperation to avoid line flying and others lose touch with some of the day to day challenges of the Line Pilot. I always said that I wanted the DALPA gig to be good to draw the best folks, but perhaps its so good we have guys who start off with the best intentions and end up sticking in the job for self serving reasons.
Scoop - just my 2 cents
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The problem with DALPA as I see it is not with any particular group of Reps - its the structure. We have many well meaning folks that participate and then become totally enthralled with the FP Loss and the lifestyle, staying in union positions for years if not decades. If I were King for a day I would require all DALPA personnel to return back to the line for as long as they were serving in between DALPA gigs. Serve three years as a Rep - go to the line for the next three years. Serve 18 months in an Admin position - back to the line for 18 months minimum.
Some of these guys simply reek of desperation to avoid line flying and others lose touch with some of the day to day challenges of the Line Pilot. I always said that I wanted the DALPA gig to be good to draw the best folks, but perhaps its so good we have guys who start off with the best intentions and end up sticking in the job for self serving reasons.
Scoop - just my 2 cents
Some of these guys simply reek of desperation to avoid line flying and others lose touch with some of the day to day challenges of the Line Pilot. I always said that I wanted the DALPA gig to be good to draw the best folks, but perhaps its so good we have guys who start off with the best intentions and end up sticking in the job for self serving reasons.
Scoop - just my 2 cents
As it was explained to me, there's a pretty broad range of ALPA involvement levels. The vast majority of the committee guys & gals are part time. No flight pay loss, except for a couple days each year for a meeting, and they just do things on their own time. There are full time committee chairs and members, along with the officers (of which there are 4), but the actual full time number is still pretty low. Some committee chairs are only part time, and go into the office on an as-needed basis.
Reps, OTOH, are not full time, and, in theory fly full lines, but between MEC sponsored activities which pay (office duty, CPO meetings, lounge duty) there is apparently considerable flexibility in dropping trips. My (former) rep in MSP told me that he would get 4-6 emails a day, and maybe 6 phone calls a week. Some were easy answers, but maybe 4-6 a month were pretty serious "need help now" kind of events. He went on to say he did something ALPA related to the tune of at least an hour on every overnight. That would get old pretty quick, IMHO.
None of this is secret. The FPL reports are right on the treasurer's page on the MEC website along with a guide that explains how it works. Is there more there? I don't know. I just got a refund check a little while ago, so they seem to run things fairly tight. Some people complain of folks sticking around in these positions, but then some complain about the constant turnover, so I'm not really sure what the balance is.
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Some councils don't want to release the results, some do. I personally think all polling results should be released.
We just ran out own survey in my council that closes next week and we will be releasing the results to our council.
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