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Old 12-18-2021 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by J Fish
Point taken about MiCrew vs iCrew but that isn’t the issue here. The rest was placed after block in and without any notification. Rest must be prospective in nature.

1. Is a proper schedule check without any sort of CNO legal for rest notification?

2. Can this schedule check happen anytime after block in or does one have to wait until 30 minutes after?

3. Is there a way to see a time stamp of when rest was placed on one’s schedule?
Can’t answer all your questions, but for #1, yes, they assume you are complying with your obligation to check your schedule after your last leg blocks in, using icrew. That is your notification.

iCrew also contains rest information beyond the R on your schedule but it isn’t obvious. I honestly don’t even remember how to find it, but there is expanded data on when those rest periods begin and end…not sure if it shows when the rest was added to your schedule.
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Old 12-18-2021 | 10:03 AM
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iCrew also contains rest information beyond the R on your schedule but it isn’t obvious. I honestly don’t even remember how to find it, but there is expanded data on when those rest periods begin and end…not sure if it shows when the rest was added to your schedule.
Schedules > Schedule-Month > (Select, OK) > Display Reserve Rest Info
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Old 12-18-2021 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by J Fish
Point taken about MiCrew vs iCrew but that isn’t the issue here. The rest was placed after block in and without any notification. Rest must be prospective in nature.

1. Is a proper schedule check without any sort of CNO legal for rest notification?

2. Can this schedule check happen anytime after block in or does one have to wait until 30 minutes after?

3. Is there a way to see a time stamp of when rest was placed on one’s schedule?

1. PWA 23.S.3.f (RES pilot) state "who is assigned rest prior to release from a rotation, must acknowledge such assignment prior to release."

So yeah, they don't need to CNO you because you are required to check your schedule after block in but before release from a RES rotation, at which point you have self notified yourself.


2. PWA 23.1.d states "be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU after block-in of the last flight segment of his rotation prior to his release"

3. We can't see it with our user level permissions, but schedulers and ALPA Sched committee folks can see the exact minute something was placed on your schedule.
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Old 12-18-2021 | 11:24 AM
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3337970[/url]]1. PWA 23.S.3.f (RES pilot) state "who is assigned rest prior to release from a rotation, must acknowledge such assignment prior to release."

So yeah, they don't need to CNO you because you are required to check your schedule after block in but before release from a RES rotation, at which point you have self notified yourself.


2. PWA 23.1.d states "be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU after block-in of the last flight segment of his rotation prior to his release"

3. We can't see it with our user level permissions, but schedulers and ALPA Sched committee folks can see the exact minute something was placed on your schedule.
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Old 12-18-2021 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611
Schedules > Schedule-Month > (Select, OK) > Display Reserve Rest Info
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Old 12-18-2021 | 08:30 PM
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Pretty sure any planned/prospective rest needs to generate a pop-up.requiring acknowledgement. You aren't required to go digging into iCrew to find that prospective rest has been assigned.
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Old 12-19-2021 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Pretty sure any planned/prospective rest needs to generate a pop-up.requiring acknowledgement. You aren't required to go digging into iCrew to find that prospective rest has been assigned.
Check out my reply at post #13.

He doesn’t have to dig, he just has to check his schedule after block in before release….if assigned rest, it will be there.
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Old 12-19-2021 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Check out my reply at post #13.

He doesn’t have to dig, he just has to check his schedule after block in before release….if assigned rest, it will be there.
And that is my point. If you are assigned rest, you will have an iCrew pop-up that tells you.

The bigger issue has been when the Company puts rest on your schedule but doesn't notify you by phone and it occurs after you are required to check your schedule. Can't just slip it on the sked and not tell the pilot.
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Old 12-19-2021 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
And that is my point. If you are assigned rest, you will have an iCrew pop-up that tells you.

The bigger issue has been when the Company puts rest on your schedule but doesn't notify you by phone and it occurs after you are required to check your schedule. Can't just slip it on the sked and not tell the pilot.
this is exactly what happened to me this past summer. When i was tasked, i told them i didn't have adequate rest, was unfit for duty, and i was paid no problem after it was looked at. Note i was on duty for 9 days straight.
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Old 12-19-2021 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq

The bigger issue has been when the Company puts rest on your schedule but doesn't notify you by phone and it occurs after you are required to check your schedule. Can't just slip it on the sked and not tell the pilot.
I LOVE when that happens....telling the scheduler that I won't be flying the rotation or sitting the SC because I didn't receive proper notification or rest gives me a special feeling in the cockles of my heart...maybe below the cockles...maybe in the sub cockle area.
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