4% Pay raise
03-17-2022 | 09:09 AM
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To be perfectly frank, I’m fine with Delta giving out raises to noncons. We need talent at all levels and functions; I think we’ve all seen/felt the effects of the early out brain drain, and it’s not fun.
That being said, it is a slap in the face and we better get ours, and soon. Each day that passes without a TA, the price goes up.
That being said, it is a slap in the face and we better get ours, and soon. Each day that passes without a TA, the price goes up.
Good for the noncons for their raise, even though it's probably wholely inadequate.
03-17-2022 | 09:22 AM
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Ed was just bragging on how well the airline is doing.
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/03/16/the-pandemic-is-over-for-delta-air-flyers-and-a-european-land-war-isnt-putting-them-off-either/
4% ain’t gonna get it done.
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2022/03/16/the-pandemic-is-over-for-delta-air-flyers-and-a-european-land-war-isnt-putting-them-off-either/
4% ain’t gonna get it done.
03-17-2022 | 09:27 AM
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Did the dispatcher fall into the list of ineligible employees?
Business is business. If you want to play hardball, which we do, you have to be mature enough to see the company do what they have to do to recruit and retain people in other departments.
Good for the noncons for their raise, even though it's probably wholely inadequate.
Good for the noncons for their raise, even though it's probably wholely inadequate.
Agree, glad to see them get a raise. We certainly have to be mature enough to play hardball with the few things we legally can do....will the pilots be willing is the question.
03-17-2022 | 09:38 AM
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No. The point is, everyone else shouldn't be prevented from improved pay or QOL just because we haven't signed a contract yet.
03-17-2022 | 09:40 AM
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This raise is peanuts. Pure optics. 4% at the high end is what, a buck or two? If anything they should be more concerned that this is what the company thinks of them. 4% doesn't "move the needle" in these times of inflation. Not going to help pay the bills, save for college, or offset the ridiculous prices at the grocery store. I think we should be more concerned with the 200+ million they just threw at Endeavor.
I've worked a job at close to min wage and got a 6% raise once. Didn't even notice it. To get wrapped up on this is silly. 4% is nothing. Probably still less than Ed's bonus in total.
I've worked a job at close to min wage and got a 6% raise once. Didn't even notice it. To get wrapped up on this is silly. 4% is nothing. Probably still less than Ed's bonus in total.
03-17-2022 | 09:44 AM
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Yup I'm with you on that part. I mean good on the dispatchers for getting the raise as well, it's just interesting that they extend the pay raise to one unionized group, but not the (only) other. In the end, this is small fries, but it's worth noting.
03-17-2022 | 09:46 AM
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No. They didn't. I'm saying that noncons shouldn't be prevented from getting a raise and dispatchers shouldn't be prevented from negotiating or signing a contract just because we haven't.
03-17-2022 | 09:46 AM
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Because our contract has been amendable since 2019.
Did you even read the rest of my post? I literally said I’m fine with the company giving raises to attract and retain noncon talent. But I do care when the company says we can’t do X because then we’d have to give it to the other employees also, only to turn around and then do X only for the noncons.
Also, nobody is saying the noncons should be prevented from getting raises until we get ours, but ours is 3 years overdue with no end in sight
Also, nobody is saying the noncons should be prevented from getting raises until we get ours, but ours is 3 years overdue with no end in sight
03-17-2022 | 09:54 AM
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Because our contract has been amendable since 2019.
I don’t care what the company pays its other employees, but I do care when the company says we can’t do X because then we’d have to give it to the other employees also. Well, when the other employees get X (in this case a raise), why don’t we get our raise as well?
Also, nobody is saying the noncons should be prevented from getting raises until we get ours, but ours is 3 years overdue with no end in sight
I don’t care what the company pays its other employees, but I do care when the company says we can’t do X because then we’d have to give it to the other employees also. Well, when the other employees get X (in this case a raise), why don’t we get our raise as well?
Also, nobody is saying the noncons should be prevented from getting raises until we get ours, but ours is 3 years overdue with no end in sight
And it's been amendable since 2020. And you can't count the year+ we were losing millions a day.
Not saying we should have, but if we wanted moderate gains, we could have signed before the pandemic. But we wanted to hit a HR. We made our bed.
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