Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
10-02-2025 | 06:54 PM
#9921
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Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Say what now?
I’ll assume you mean alter the reserve rules to establish:
1) Reserve Rotation Guarantee
2) SCC increased to 2 hours regardless if used or not
3) Remove scheduler discretion from awarding SCs above 6
4) Sick if needed on reserve
5) Remove reserve (and reroute) carveouts from consecutive sub 12 hr layovers
6) Remove reserve carve out for reroutes needing to violate an X day to get the punitive reroute pay.
Cause the only other thing you could have meant was unilaterally giving tons of concessions to the company.
Reserve was improved during the last contract. Let’s keep improving it, not give it away.
I’ll assume you mean alter the reserve rules to establish:
1) Reserve Rotation Guarantee
2) SCC increased to 2 hours regardless if used or not
3) Remove scheduler discretion from awarding SCs above 6
4) Sick if needed on reserve
5) Remove reserve (and reroute) carveouts from consecutive sub 12 hr layovers
6) Remove reserve carve out for reroutes needing to violate an X day to get the punitive reroute pay.
Cause the only other thing you could have meant was unilaterally giving tons of concessions to the company.
Reserve was improved during the last contract. Let’s keep improving it, not give it away.
10-03-2025 | 01:50 AM
#9922
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Joined: Sep 2011
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Say what now?
I’ll assume you mean alter the reserve rules to establish:
1) Reserve Rotation Guarantee
2) SCC increased to 2 hours regardless if used or not
3) Remove scheduler discretion from awarding SCs above 6
4) Sick if needed on reserve
5) Remove reserve (and reroute) carveouts from consecutive sub 12 hr layovers
6) Remove reserve carve out for reroutes needing to violate an X day to get the punitive reroute pay.
Cause the only other thing you could have meant was unilaterally giving tons of concessions to the company.
Reserve was improved during the last contract. Let’s keep improving it, not give it away.
I’ll assume you mean alter the reserve rules to establish:
1) Reserve Rotation Guarantee
2) SCC increased to 2 hours regardless if used or not
3) Remove scheduler discretion from awarding SCs above 6
4) Sick if needed on reserve
5) Remove reserve (and reroute) carveouts from consecutive sub 12 hr layovers
6) Remove reserve carve out for reroutes needing to violate an X day to get the punitive reroute pay.
Cause the only other thing you could have meant was unilaterally giving tons of concessions to the company.
Reserve was improved during the last contract. Let’s keep improving it, not give it away.
10-03-2025 | 06:46 AM
#9923
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Joined: Jan 2025
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Post # 9920 on the previous page is a great start.
10-03-2025 | 08:08 AM
#9924
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 2,903
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Anyone know if the refinery fire in El Segundo (just south of LAX) has had any impact on operations?
Reading (depending on the severity of the shutdown/repair estimates) this would be a blip for <3 days, small bite <10 days, major impact >10 days.
Reading (depending on the severity of the shutdown/repair estimates) this would be a blip for <3 days, small bite <10 days, major impact >10 days.
10-03-2025 | 08:19 AM
#9925
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Joined: Jul 2023
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Eh. That thing sets itself on fire every few years. It's probably fine.
10-03-2025 | 08:24 AM
#9926
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From: ir.delta.com
I strongly disagree. What needs to be prioritized is getting back to trip coverage that works as intended just like the previous 97 years this airline existed.
Fixing 23M7 is lipstick on a pig. Until this current PWA cycle it was never an issue. Time to sort out the coverage process whether that entails altering the reserve rules(which I think would help and I think many would be open to with the SC fiascos, etc), or mandating proper training of schedulers, etc.
I’ve been told by very intelligent folks in ALPA that the alteration of the reserve rules in this current PWA, drive a tremendous amount of the failed coverage sequences.
Id be totally fine going back to our old reserve rules. 18hr LC has backfired in my opinion.
Fixing 23M7 is lipstick on a pig. Until this current PWA cycle it was never an issue. Time to sort out the coverage process whether that entails altering the reserve rules(which I think would help and I think many would be open to with the SC fiascos, etc), or mandating proper training of schedulers, etc.
I’ve been told by very intelligent folks in ALPA that the alteration of the reserve rules in this current PWA, drive a tremendous amount of the failed coverage sequences.
Id be totally fine going back to our old reserve rules. 18hr LC has backfired in my opinion.
I don't think you've done RES under the old or new system and have no understanding of reserve. I think the coverage impact the company has CHOOSEN has negatively impacted you and now you choose to opine.
Last edited by notEnuf; 10-03-2025 at 08:43 AM.
10-03-2025 | 10:10 AM
#9927
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Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Big ones
So compliance is not a thing and we should just make deals that benefit their chosen behavior? They have the tools they need, they CHOOSE not to use them. We gave them an accommodation that doubled the lead time for assigning open time. The CHOOSEN method for implementing ARCOS is what is the problem. If they are going to use massive batch sizes then people will take all proffers and the time to evaluate them. If they company is willing to go back to individual calls for GSs and 24 open time coverage then sure we can go back to the past. That won't happen.
I don't think you've done RES under the old or new system and have no understanding of reserve. I think the coverage impact the company has CHOOSEN has negatively impacted you and now you choose to opine.
I don't think you've done RES under the old or new system and have no understanding of reserve. I think the coverage impact the company has CHOOSEN has negatively impacted you and now you choose to opine.
10-03-2025 | 11:31 AM
#9928
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10-03-2025 | 12:02 PM
#9929
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Joined: Dec 2017
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I enjoyed being senior on reserve and not being used. Am i the only guy that enjoyed that?
I didnt do greenslips. I didnt do anything. It was great. Does the pilot group want that back or am i the only one?
Already did the survey
I didnt do greenslips. I didnt do anything. It was great. Does the pilot group want that back or am i the only one?
Already did the survey
10-03-2025 | 12:21 PM
#9930
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 355
Not sure how long this will last on the ER. Fleet drawdowns always cause staffing to get goofy.
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