Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
09-27-2025 | 07:46 AM
#9821
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
The company shouldn’t save money because we choose to deviate either. They already save a PS seat when pilots choose to fly OAL metal, drive, etc. When we do fly the deviation on DL metal, they are able to book us in a lower seating class in most instances. They also save on reroute, carve, additional ADG credit, etc. if something happens to the scheduled DH after the pilot deviates. None of that is in dispute though.
At issue here is that the company is attempting to retract pay if a scheduled DH falls apart BEFORE a pilot actually calls to deviate. If, on the last day of your trip, your scheduled DH is already delayed with an arrival time past midnight, your rotation will show an additional 2 hours of carve pay before you deviate. As soon as you call to deviate, that pay will disappear from your rotation. That’s a violation of the agreed-upon interpretation on SRH page 231.
At issue here is that the company is attempting to retract pay if a scheduled DH falls apart BEFORE a pilot actually calls to deviate. If, on the last day of your trip, your scheduled DH is already delayed with an arrival time past midnight, your rotation will show an additional 2 hours of carve pay before you deviate. As soon as you call to deviate, that pay will disappear from your rotation. That’s a violation of the agreed-upon interpretation on SRH page 231.
09-27-2025 | 08:57 AM
#9822
On Reserve
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Hopefully on a ski slope in Tahoe.
Also, any DDH to/from our airport/home of record gets the same treatment as a DH to/from base, meaning if we need the seat on a sold out flight they get it for us. Any other destination gets us #1 on the standby list which keeps rolling as #1 to the next flight until we get on.
09-27-2025 | 10:38 AM
#9823
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09-27-2025 | 11:42 AM
#9824
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Vac days aren't the most efficient use of them fot sure, but all is not lost. On the 717, rarely does a day break 5+15, so washing them for 7 hour days isn't really a thing. Im getting close to doubling my vacation for next year. Thanks to PB days, I'll likely be able to nearly take the entire summer off next year. Love being full with just vacation. Theb only flying if I'm called for an IA/GS or a SS.
09-27-2025 | 12:54 PM
#9825
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Joined: Dec 2007
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From: DAL 330
The company shouldn’t save money because we choose to deviate either. They already save a PS seat when pilots choose to fly OAL metal, drive, etc. When we do fly the deviation on DL metal, they are able to book us in a lower seating class in most instances. They also save on reroute, carve, additional ADG credit, etc. if something happens to the scheduled DH after the pilot deviates. None of that is in dispute though.
At issue here is that the company is attempting to retract pay if a scheduled DH falls apart BEFORE a pilot actually calls to deviate. If, on the last day of your trip, your scheduled DH is already delayed with an arrival time past midnight, your rotation will show an additional 2 hours of carve pay before you deviate. As soon as you call to deviate, that pay will disappear from your rotation. That’s a violation of the agreed-upon interpretation on SRH page 231.
At issue here is that the company is attempting to retract pay if a scheduled DH falls apart BEFORE a pilot actually calls to deviate. If, on the last day of your trip, your scheduled DH is already delayed with an arrival time past midnight, your rotation will show an additional 2 hours of carve pay before you deviate. As soon as you call to deviate, that pay will disappear from your rotation. That’s a violation of the agreed-upon interpretation on SRH page 231.
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09-27-2025 | 07:24 PM
#9826
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: ir.delta.com
Vac days aren't the most efficient use of them fot sure, but all is not lost. On the 717, rarely does a day break 5+15, so washing them for 7 hour days isn't really a thing. Im getting close to doubling my vacation for next year. Thanks to PB days, I'll likely be able to nearly take the entire summer off next year. Love being full with just vacation. Theb only flying if I'm called for an IA/GS or a SS.
09-28-2025 | 03:56 AM
#9827
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Agree with all that and that's the plan if I see high time day in the packet. But for Sept, we had one rotation that even broke 5+15. Much more common on the 73N/320, than the 717.
09-28-2025 | 05:19 AM
#9828
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09-28-2025 | 03:25 PM
#9829
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: B737 FO
You wash a PB day for say 9 hours, this is pay and credit. Once above 80 hours that month you can deposit any earned hours above 80 into your full service bank and then use those hours to purchase vacation days. Rinse and repeat thru all your PBs.
09-28-2025 | 03:40 PM
#9830
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For the slow learners like me, just so I have this right.
You wash a PB day for say 9 hours, this is pay and credit. Once above 80 hours that month you can deposit any earned hours above 80 into your full service bank and then use those hours to purchase vacation days. Rinse and repeat thru all your PBs.
You wash a PB day for say 9 hours, this is pay and credit. Once above 80 hours that month you can deposit any earned hours above 80 into your full service bank and then use those hours to purchase vacation days. Rinse and repeat thru all your PBs.
Last edited by Verdell; 09-28-2025 at 03:51 PM.
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