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Old 08-08-2025 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
Call Cs and get the carry in credit added to your sick or your September 15th check is gonna suck.
Copy, will do.

Thats what I figured, the system screwed it up.
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Old 08-08-2025 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Copy, will do.

Thats what I figured, the system screwed it up.
Also if you used MiCrew to call out sick, send ALPA a dart.
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Old 08-08-2025 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Also if you used MiCrew to call out sick, send ALPA a dart.
I did used MiCrew. I will send the Dart as well tomorrow.
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Old 08-09-2025 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Yeah the cost is wayyyy lower than people think. Really it's just moving commuters to the top of the non-rev list. Because how many flights depart each day with zero non-revs on? Very few. So those seats are just going to positive space commuters first--instead of non-revs, not instead of paying passengers in the vast majority of cases.
I think people need to forget about the actual cost, because that is one, a moving target, and two, you are dealing with a company that has irrational measures.

Beside the pay & trip coverage problems, which are actually caused by the same issue, look at the problems the company focuses its most obnoxious non-compliance on: crew meals, state sick leave and dead head seating.

Ask yourself what those things have in common.
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Old 08-09-2025 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HelloNewnan
I think people need to forget about the actual cost, because that is one, a moving target, and two, you are dealing with a company that has irrational measures.

Beside the pay & trip coverage problems, which are actually caused by the same issue, look at the problems the company focuses its most obnoxious non-compliance on: crew meals, state sick leave and dead head seating.

Ask yourself what those things have in common.
What deadhead policy did the FAs get after we signed C19? I know they got our crew meals, and holiday pay, etc. Did their DH seat policies change?
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Old 08-09-2025 | 10:41 AM
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What deadhead policy did the FAs get after we signed C19? I know they got our crew meals, and holiday pay, etc. Did their DH seat policies change?
Its not the match. The company wants to show there is absolutely no point in a union. Even if they were to match the non-cons 100% to quell their upset for whatever reason, they are tacitly admitting that there is a path for other employees to controlling the outcome, even if indirectly. It's not the cost of the match, which I agree we should never have to consider, but the fact that the company is going to have to jump that hoop with them, and again demonstrate that those mean ole' pilots are in at least some control of their own situation.

They want to ensure to show there is no point. Therefore each gain that we have that is on display to the employee group at large, with have either a very, very high price tag attached to it, they'll agree and simply ignore it or implement it in the worst way possible (crew meals), or they'll make sure to implement it where others outside our control can play fast and loose with it, again to show those mean old pilots whose really in control (deadheading). Then they'll feign ignorance or circumstances outside their control. DHing and crew meals could be fixed in a day. The rest of the employee group lives under a constant sword of Damocles, and we see that every day when the agents make decisions based on the company watching them on the holy altar of metrics. You can bet if the company sent out a memo that said "stop effing with the pilots' food and seating" it would stop in a heartbeat. But they don't.
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Old 08-09-2025 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HelloNewnan
Its not the match. The company wants to show there is absolutely no point in a union. Even if they were to match the non-cons 100% to quell their upset for whatever reason, they are tacitly admitting that there is a path for other employees to controlling the outcome, even if indirectly. It's not the cost of the match, which I agree we should never have to consider, but the fact that the company is going to have to jump that hoop with them, and again demonstrate that those mean ole' pilots are in at least some control of their own situation.

They want to ensure to show there is no point. Therefore each gain that we have that is on display to the employee group at large, with have either a very, very high price tag attached to it, they'll agree and simply ignore it or implement it in the worst way possible (crew meals), or they'll make sure to implement it where others outside our control can play fast and loose with it, again to show those mean old pilots whose really in control (deadheading). Then they'll feign ignorance or circumstances outside their control. DHing and crew meals could be fixed in a day. The rest of the employee group lives under a constant sword of Damocles, and we see that every day when the agents make decisions based on the company watching them on the holy altar of metrics. You can bet if the company sent out a memo that said "stop effing with the pilots' food and seating" it would stop in a heartbeat. But they don't.
I agree with all that but you didnt address what I asked.
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Old 08-09-2025 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
What deadhead policy did the FAs get after we signed C19? I know they got our crew meals, and holiday pay, etc. Did their DH seat policies change?
They already had holiday pay. Before we did.
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Old 08-09-2025 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Viper25
I agree with all that but you didnt address what I asked.
They matched our per diem, which was fairly expensive, if I had to guess.
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Old 08-09-2025 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
They already had holiday pay. Before we did.
They had crew meals before us as well.
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