Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
08-08-2025 | 04:50 AM
#9311
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Get rid of multi-rates fleets....319 pays same as 321 NEO, etc....problem solves.
Then double my pay rates....stop nickel and diming per diem, crew meals, etc, and sections with lots of language that the company can decipher in their own interest (reroute, coverage, etc).
$1000 (Capt) and $500 (FO ) multiplied by xx number of credit hours = $$$$....this is 2nd grade multiplication with ZERO room for interpretation!
Then double my pay rates....stop nickel and diming per diem, crew meals, etc, and sections with lots of language that the company can decipher in their own interest (reroute, coverage, etc).
$1000 (Capt) and $500 (FO ) multiplied by xx number of credit hours = $$$$....this is 2nd grade multiplication with ZERO room for interpretation!
08-08-2025 | 06:17 AM
#9312
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From: Looking left
And I never said anything about trading soft pay items....EDP, RR, SIT....they all stay.
But if we give the company room for interpretation....crew meals and when to reimburse....DH seats but they block all the C+....they will *always* pick the angle that benefits them to not pay us.
Huge boost in hours pay fixes that....nothing for company to "interpret".
Hell at $1000 Captain pay I'll gladly buy my own meals and buy my own leisure tickets....don't waste time trying to get company to get better ZED agreements.
08-08-2025 | 07:14 AM
#9313
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From: ir.delta.com
If people are making it to work now, then there's no incentive for the company to change the commute policy. That means they will ask for a quid and it will probably be large. That's the reason I'm against negotiating for it. If/when it becomes an issue for the company they will alter their stance. See Covid and ATL IROPs for examples. We have PS now but pilots don't like it because of the inconvenience and the company doesn't like it and apparently will randomly deny it. Fix that problem first.
08-08-2025 | 07:20 AM
#9314
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We aren't seriously wasting negotiating capital on zed agreements are we? let the tendies and 50 other employee groups that aren't union get that carrot worked out so we can just benefit from it because ZED benefits are the same for everyone
08-08-2025 | 07:21 AM
#9315
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Funny enough, spending negotiating capital on crew meals was a waste. Who didn't see it coming that it would be the total mess we have today? Most of the meals are terrible, missing completely or woefully inadequate. I love when my two option are both foods that I can not eat...after I noted anything but those two because I'm allergic lol. Even if we could order specific meals, it will still be crap, shelf-stable airplane food.
Just flew with a FO who had been at UAL for 2 years and they found even their crew meals were terrible. So I dont think getting their language would be a great win.
Just flew with a FO who had been at UAL for 2 years and they found even their crew meals were terrible. So I dont think getting their language would be a great win.
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08-08-2025 | 07:42 AM
#9316
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In my experience one of the things the company hasn’t screwed up is paying my correct hourly wage. All the other soft pay is nice but the company screws it up and I don’t get paid right. Same with meals. Instead of the 69th chicken or beef decision just pay me more money so I can buy orange chicken at Panda.
08-08-2025 | 01:11 PM
#9317
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question for the more knowledgeable people…
I had a rotation that carried over into August. I had to call in sick last month for that trip…
My time card show that I was sick on aug 1/2…but there’s nothing in “pay time” or “credit time”.
my credit applicable to GS says I’m below the trigger, but I know that my sick time counts as credit, but it’s not showing. I should be above the trigger right now, with around 72hrs.
If I pick a GS…will it calculate it correctly? Or do I have to wait until X day of the month, so my sick time shows as credit?
It’s just driving me crazy. lol…
I had a rotation that carried over into August. I had to call in sick last month for that trip…
My time card show that I was sick on aug 1/2…but there’s nothing in “pay time” or “credit time”.
my credit applicable to GS says I’m below the trigger, but I know that my sick time counts as credit, but it’s not showing. I should be above the trigger right now, with around 72hrs.
If I pick a GS…will it calculate it correctly? Or do I have to wait until X day of the month, so my sick time shows as credit?
It’s just driving me crazy. lol…
08-08-2025 | 01:38 PM
#9318
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From: NYC 7ERA
question for the more knowledgeable people…
I had a rotation that carried over into August. I had to call in sick last month for that trip…
My time card show that I was sick on aug 1/2…but there’s nothing in “pay time” or “credit time”.
my credit applicable to GS says I’m below the trigger, but I know that my sick time counts as credit, but it’s not showing. I should be above the trigger right now, with around 72hrs.
If I pick a GS…will it calculate it correctly? Or do I have to wait until X day of the month, so my sick time shows as credit?
It’s just driving me crazy. lol…
I had a rotation that carried over into August. I had to call in sick last month for that trip…
My time card show that I was sick on aug 1/2…but there’s nothing in “pay time” or “credit time”.
my credit applicable to GS says I’m below the trigger, but I know that my sick time counts as credit, but it’s not showing. I should be above the trigger right now, with around 72hrs.
If I pick a GS…will it calculate it correctly? Or do I have to wait until X day of the month, so my sick time shows as credit?
It’s just driving me crazy. lol…
08-08-2025 | 02:10 PM
#9319
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Yep. Frankly, this should be an issue with the Grievance-to-the-grievance for the MiCrew automated sick. If they can’t get the lay right, it’s not automated. I had to call on my last sick to correct the pay, as they missed all the soft pays…
08-08-2025 | 03:26 PM
#9320
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Rates at all three legacies are always going to be the same (pattern bargaining)...I'm not trying to out-negotiate the other pilots groups.
And I never said anything about trading soft pay items....EDP, RR, SIT....they all stay.
But if we give the company room for interpretation....crew meals and when to reimburse....DH seats but they block all the C+....they will *always* pick the angle that benefits them to not pay us.
Huge boost in hours pay fixes that....nothing for company to "interpret".
Hell at $1000 Captain pay I'll gladly buy my own meals and buy my own leisure tickets....don't waste time trying to get company to get better ZED agreements.
And I never said anything about trading soft pay items....EDP, RR, SIT....they all stay.
But if we give the company room for interpretation....crew meals and when to reimburse....DH seats but they block all the C+....they will *always* pick the angle that benefits them to not pay us.
Huge boost in hours pay fixes that....nothing for company to "interpret".
Hell at $1000 Captain pay I'll gladly buy my own meals and buy my own leisure tickets....don't waste time trying to get company to get better ZED agreements.
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