the original post that started all of this was about a deviated deadhead that canceled (read: reroute)

 

There's no 23K when washing the first day of a multi day trip. I specifically bid a 4 day trip with 8:58 on day 1 and used it multiple times. I think you know this but just for clarity to the rest.

 

When you use it multiple times, you're basically gambling that nobody else sees it in open time and takes it, correct?

 

Yes, that's why I prefer the front loaded 4 day. Buddy up with someone else to catch it when it goes back in OT. If it's a long trip you have to watch the credit. If it falls to someone junior ask them if they will play the game. I've had good luck because the junior person was willing to learn the system. If you are junior comd the wide report for someone who can accommodate the trip or willing to use their trip. I've had good success in FEB and MAR because that's the end of the year to wash PBs.

 

Deviating DH is a choice. As a commuter I bid as many DH trips that I can work into my schedule, mostly 5 day trips with a DH day on front and in back. In September my schedule was 9 days worked for 14 days of pay with PS to and from work on all except 1 leg. I may be naive, but to me this is a great deal and one of the reasons I downbid from NB A to WB B. I don't see how anyone who deviates for their convenience should get anything based on what happens to the originally scheduled DH. We have a lot of stuff that can be improved in our PWA - IMHO this ain't one of them.

Scoop

 

Yes I’ve washed dozens of PB days. The question was what happens when your trip gets 23k’d before you do the washing (or before simply PB drop it straight up once).

 

Is washing PB days that thing where you ping pong a trip back and forth with someone?

(Don't worry I've literally never had PB days)*

* Had 2 as a new hire and was too junior to understand what they were so I lost them as supp vac days

 

The company shouldn’t save money because we choose to deviate either. They already save a PS seat when pilots choose to fly OAL metal, drive, etc. When we do fly the deviation on DL metal, they are able to book us in a lower seating class in most instances. They also save on reroute, carve, additional ADG credit, etc. if something happens to the scheduled DH after the pilot deviates. None of that is in dispute though.

At issue here is that the company is attempting to retract pay if a scheduled DH falls apart BEFORE a pilot actually calls to deviate. If, on the last day of your trip, your scheduled DH is already delayed with an arrival time past midnight, your rotation will show an additional 2 hours of carve pay before you deviate. As soon as you call to deviate, that pay will disappear from your rotation. That’s a violation of the agreed-upon interpretation on SRH page 231.

 

"The pay and credit and per diem of a rotation will not be affected by a pilot’s decision to deviate from their scheduled deadhead."

Again, how many times does it actually happen, that they claw back a few hours from DV8 pilot? Not. often.

It's budget dust. It won't even move the 7th decimal place on the spreadsheet. The company chooses to 'reinterpret' the PWA yet again, and is astonished when pilots get bitter and stop doing the little things,

 

Yes. You take either a high credit 1 day trip, or a multi-day trip with high block on the first day, then you "wash" the banked PB days one at a time, over and over, earning the pay for the first (or only) day over and over again. A banked PB day is worth ~4:30 if used to drop a RES day, 4:35 if converted to VAC day, ~5:15/day if used to cover a multi-day trip. But using the washing method it can be worth 7-10 hours per day for NB and 14-17 per day for WB pilots.