Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
09-25-2025 | 01:28 PM
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09-25-2025 | 01:41 PM
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That you lose money for deviating from trip. They should still have to get you back to base if you deviate and pay whatever it costs. Like shadow bidding. It should be a shadow trip once you deviate. Us deviating is beneficial to the company because we let them off the hook for getting us back.
09-25-2025 | 02:02 PM
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It is. I’ve got a case at an impasse with company. Calling to DDH will cost you money if your DH is delayed into EDP/Carve/extra day, etc. The moment you DDH it everything snaps back to scheduled times and you lose the pay. No idea if we’ll ever get the company to pay on this issue.
But since there is no cell on a spreadsheet for goodwill, they don’t know or care.
09-25-2025 | 02:07 PM
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When they first allowed DH deviation you did not get paid for the DH leg if you deviated. You also lost additional pay with the duty and trip rigs. Western had a somewhat infamous pilot named Arle. Western paid for deviated legs. Post merger he flew a popular trip LAX-HNL-SAN deadhead back to LAX trip. In SAN he called crew scheduling and said, “This is Arle on rotation XXXX, I am sick! DH a reserve pilot down to SAN to DH home for me. I am going to wait and watch!” The policy changed shortly after.
09-25-2025 | 02:46 PM
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Ya I had the same thing happen as Tennis. BS but at impasse.
09-25-2025 | 03:19 PM
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09-25-2025 | 05:39 PM
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This is the type of thing that backfires every which way.
The company’s just gonna say screw it no more deviating. I don’t care how any of you try to spin it, deviation on deadhead is a benefit for pilots.
trying to get paid reroute pay because you’re originally scheduled deadhead canceled, etc. is an overreach.
jmho
09-25-2025 | 05:42 PM
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what am I missing? Guys wanna get paid re-route pay when they literally get to go straight home and aren’t rerouted?
This is the type of thing that backfires every which way.
The company’s just gonna say screw it no more deviating. I don’t care how any of you try to spin it, deviation on deadhead is a benefit for pilots.
trying to get paid reroute pay because you’re originally scheduled deadhead canceled, etc. is an overreach.
jmho
This is the type of thing that backfires every which way.
The company’s just gonna say screw it no more deviating. I don’t care how any of you try to spin it, deviation on deadhead is a benefit for pilots.
trying to get paid reroute pay because you’re originally scheduled deadhead canceled, etc. is an overreach.
jmho
09-25-2025 | 05:51 PM
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Lol so is saying screw it and having non Delta pilots fly a 350 delivery, abusing 23M7, rejecting auto accepts, its not a violation until.... you get the picture. That said i don't disagree in the situation your posed, but Cbreezy hit the nail on the head in my situation.
Also can they just say no more deviating? Isn't that codified in the PWA?
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