Id like to know how the TC identifies the LC pilot currently flying. 😂

Would be crazy if they’re using the RR step but being allowed to apply LC step. Guess that’s sort of the gist.

 

It’s worth reading the grievance decision linked in RG’s email. The arbitrator says that the contract is too complex to understand. Ironically, he began with a conversation about how to make maple syrup and alcohol.

The union was implicated for presenting arguments to the 5-member board that were not framed in the same way to the 4-member board. That was a strategic mistake no doubt.

In any event, this is a lose-lose for obvious reasons.

A party that boasts how it wins so much, and then laments the opposition’s change in strategy going forward, tells us all we need to know.

Hopefully this is a wake up call to ALPA that we need to construct the contract language to adapt to the decreasing intellectual capabilities of the system boards.

 

Ambivalent about the latest RG memo.

There's posturing going on, and it's not for the pilot group.

EBs reign won't last forever. (He makes money and signs off on contracts where we get paid more and have profit sharing; I'm good with that. I'd shake his hand. He's caved on our contract demands twice. R. Anderson did the same with more panache; I was sorry to see him go even if he did break the mechanics union at NWA.* But a Leo Mullin or Ron Allen ("Let's overpay for Comair!") may always be the next on the roster. You never know. New CEO's are always an existential threat to the airline)

When we receive direct emails from VPs about the day-to-day, I wonder who's auditioning/posturing for what. That level of greasy pole climbing is light years outside my wheelhouse.

Any VP memo that comes to my boring line pilot email address about "big picture" stuff raises an eyebrow.

What Delta pilot would think "Yeah, I'm going with that, not the ALPA stuff?"

Because anyone who's been paying attention (and I don't pay much attention) knows something sketchy is going on in the pay department.

Fook-ery afoot.

(*) Grok it if you're interested. The NWA mechanic strike has layers.

 

If you read the arbitrators ruling you will see we didn't lose because we were wrong.

We lost because ALPA changed what the argument was over between the initial grievance and the appeal to the 5-member board. This was a case of semantics and to be honest, a failure on ALPA's part.

One more major issue -- the arbitrator straight up was like "you're contract is entirely too complex".

Ironically, the new RR rules in terms of pay, I thought were to make it way simpler. It has had the opposite effect. The company is now simply throwing their hands up knowing full well ALPA is understaffed to track it all in a timely fashion.

Perhaps ripping into Gumm and personally insulting him at the last MEC meeting wasn't a good move in terms of enamoring him with being more open to help smooth these issues out(whether it was warranted or not).

All I know is that the issues between the company and ALPA are getting uglier by the day and it isn't getting fixed anytime soon. Best of luck to us all.

 

Our resident anti-unionist has spoken.

 

Sounds fatiguing.

 

does anyone knows if any add. class for this year?

 

2 words - pay rates. As in baseline hourly rates.

I warned you guys about all the layers and complexity of the contract in regard to our soft pay provisions and reserve. It's pretty much turned out exactly as I predicted.

Grievances, we win some we lose some. This should have been an easy win for us, but here we are. My faith in DALPA continues to wane. The wage theft has got to end.

 

No one knows. Can't have any until another AE.

 

Weird because not a single outstanding grievance is regarding soft pay provisions