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Old 07-06-2025 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
That's different and understandable. Many airlines have the policy that the seatbelt sign is for FAs as well.

What we're talking about here is the hypothetical and apparently for some real world events that it's smooth at cruise, seat belt sign is off and FA's call to have seat belt sign turned on. Decade plus at the Widget and I've never had that happen. Every call to turn on the seat belt sign has been reasonable.
About 10% of the time domestic I get the "it's really rough back here" when it's dead calm. Occasionally a PA made in my name for something I didn't say.
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Old 07-06-2025 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
That's different and understandable. Many airlines have the policy that the seatbelt sign is for FAs as well.

What we're talking about here is the hypothetical and apparently for some real world events that it's smooth at cruise, seat belt sign is off and FA's call to have seat belt sign turned on. Decade plus at the Widget and I've never had that happen. Every call to turn on the seat belt sign has been reasonable.
Its not hypothetical. You could say rare, you could say something you havent seen.

Hypothetical would be "TA1 is the best deal we are gonna get". A wrong hypothetical but a hypothetical. So lets not double down trip.
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Old 07-06-2025 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
That's different and understandable. Many airlines have the policy that the seatbelt sign is for FAs as well.

What we're talking about here is the hypothetical and apparently for some real world events that it's smooth at cruise, seat belt sign is off and FA's call to have seat belt sign turned on. Decade plus at the Widget and I've never had that happen. Every call to turn on the seat belt sign has been reasonable.
As others have said, just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It’s not common but it 100 percent exists. I’m also over a decade here and rarely block over 200 a year and I’ve seen it twice. The first time I was so confused I almost spit out my coffee. Smooth as glass but “it’s really bumpy in the back.”

Inconceivable

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Old 07-06-2025 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
rarely block over 200
I'm at 500. is this one of those "have you tried being more senior" tricks?
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Old 07-06-2025 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RockAutomagic
I'm at 500. is this one of those "have you tried being more senior" tricks?
Ha probably. Reserve btw. I’d call it a bit of seniority, a bit of guile, and a large dollop of luck.
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Old 07-06-2025 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RockAutomagic
I'm at 500. is this one of those "have you tried being more senior" tricks?
yes, but that's relative to seat

Even I can't do less than 200 on reserve in the most senior category I can hold and I am a professional slacker that procrastinates. I could be page 1 in almost any FO seat and pull it off I'm sure but you still need 40%ish and skills to do it reliably. The top half of FOs are more savvy about RES than the top half of CAs for now but they will upgrade and take their knowledge with them. The current senior CAs are slowly learning but still have a general fear of RES. My biggest fear is that there is a mass learning event before they retire but fortunately they are mostly big money = big airplane thinkers.

REG averaging 48 block/month 13.5 days of work
RES averaging 12 block/month 4 days at work counting unused LC and SC as not at work

Reserve pays about the same with 5-6 SCC and some add pay (80ish)

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Old 07-06-2025 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RockAutomagic
I'm at 500. is this one of those "have you tried being more senior" tricks?
I blocked 610 last year, didn't fly a single GS and I did a full initial qual so I had a whole month in the sim.

I'm a masochist I guess
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Old 07-06-2025 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
I blocked 610 last year, didn't fly a single GS and I did a full initial qual so I had a whole month in the sim.

I'm a masochist I guess

Probably plenty in my cateogry just hitting 100 hours this year. I'd bet that there are ATL717As that are doing better with their shorter legs. Luck, timing, seniority, willingness to manipulate your schedule and/or drop trips/reserve days. But I don't really care about block as much as I do TAFB and nights away. I'd gladly fly 8 hr day turns if it meant I could have more days off and zero nights away.
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Old 07-06-2025 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
ive never once had a FA call me to turn on the sign whesmooth. Been a captain here for years now………..
This whole topic is subjective. We are up front, they are in the back. Our idea of smooth is
different from theirs (especially when it comes to desire to do any work).

I like the “not my monkey, not my circus” moniker. Perfect. The company isn’t addressing the issue because a) it is subjective and b) they’ve always given FAs the benefit of the doubt because they are non-union and need to maintain that level of ReSpECt. $$$


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Old 07-06-2025 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Probably plenty in my cateogry just hitting 100 hours this year. I'd bet that there are ATL717As that are doing better with their shorter legs. Luck, timing, seniority, willingness to manipulate your schedule and/or drop trips/reserve days. But I don't really care about block as much as I do TAFB and nights away. I'd gladly fly 8 hr day turns if it meant I could have more days off and zero nights away.
Same here. I don't care at all about block, only days off and nights away.
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