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Old 08-19-2025 | 09:47 AM
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PCS question.

Once the GS process starts, is it contractually permissible that CS can stop the process and revert back to W and Y slips?

It’s green, so I assume they can do whatever they want. Just some odd timing observed on the GS seniority progression suddenly stopping 60+ minutes after the initial ARCOS call, trip still in open time, then being awarded to a pilot that submitted a different color slip.

Never seen that before.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
PCS question.

Once the GS process starts, is it contractually permissible that CS can stop the process and revert back to W and Y slips?

It’s green, so I assume they can do whatever they want. Just some odd timing observed on the GS seniority progression suddenly stopping 60+ minutes after the initial ARCOS call, trip still in open time, then being awarded to a pilot that submitted a different color slip.

Never seen that before.
Not sure it's allowed, but I've definitely seen it happen. Got called for an OOBGS and see later that it was covered by an IBGS not long after my call.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 12:06 PM
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When I'm in my acknowledgement window on a GS, do they have to place the trip on my line in iCrew or is a phone call and ARCOS sufficient?
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Old 08-19-2025 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Not sure it's allowed, but I've definitely seen it happen. Got called for an OOBGS and see later that it was covered by an IBGS not long after my call.
I've been watching the 23M7 reports lately and I think there are several "seniors" that are doing late (after coverage starts putting in WSs for the purpose of $$$. So maybe they are calling their bluffs.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChronicFatigue
When I'm in my acknowledgement window on a GS, do they have to place the trip on my line in iCrew or is a phone call and ARCOS sufficient?
Pretty sure they have to put it on your line because that's the only way a RES can see what the value of the trip is for them.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Pretty sure they have to put it on your line because that's the only way a RES can see what the value of the trip is for them.
There’s no contractual requirement for scheduling to place a rotation on your line during the ARCOS award window. They currently do it just to test legalities a final time in case you acknowledge the award, then it’s your trip.
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Old 08-20-2025 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I've been watching the 23M7 reports lately and I think there are several "seniors" that are doing late (after coverage starts putting in WSs for the purpose of $$$. So maybe they are calling their bluffs.
That won’t work. You have to be on the trip coverage report to get a 23m7 payment. If your slip isn’t in when they start coverage then you won’t be on the report.
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Old 08-20-2025 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
There’s no contractual requirement for scheduling to place a rotation on your line during the ARCOS award window. They currently do it just to test legalities a final time in case you acknowledge the award, then it’s your trip.
I'm pretty sure the trip coverage report does that prior to being sent to ARCOS
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Old 08-20-2025 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm pretty sure the trip coverage report does that prior to being sent to ARCOS
TC Report does trigger flight crew legalities, however, numerous things can make a pilot no longer legal for the rotation from TC generation to rotation award. Hence, a final FCL check whenever a rotation is placed on your line in iCrew.
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Old 08-20-2025 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
TC Report does trigger flight crew legalities, however, numerous things can make a pilot no longer legal for the rotation from TC generation to rotation award. Hence, a final FCL check whenever a rotation is placed on your line in iCrew.
This sounds like we need more transparency around the trip coverage report. We see the same names repeatedly on the 23M7 log. You would think if the halts were done closer in to report time, then they would be randomly further down the list and not stop coverage on certain names repeatedly as they skip to IA. Also, why would they not add me to the 23M7 report when they admit the omission? By not reporting me correctly they set up a bias that the report is correct and complete or that the senior with a slip was named and no further investigation is necessary. They don’t go back during the pay case and run a legality test when and where the decision to shortcut the 23 O coverage ladder happened.

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