Any "Latest & Greatest about Delta?" Part 2
10-04-2025 | 10:39 AM
#9962
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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester
i don’t want to improve reserve rules at all. When I was on reserve, I never got paid more than 70 hours, long call was 12 hours, short call blocks were 12 hours, and I could do 7 short calls per month. I don’t feel sorry for pilots who upgraded in less than 2 years and are now realizing they are looking at close to half a decade or more on reserve. Our current reserve rules are fine. We even have senior pilots bid reserve these days. That tells me it’s not that bad. Commuting and reserve never go together. That’s just poor life choices.
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10-04-2025 | 10:42 AM
#9963
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Some of this has been discussed but a few more key things to improves on reserve:
1. Rotation guarantee paid for NOOP’d GS/IA, just like REG pilots
2. A RES who gets a GS/IA should get single pay, no credit for the entire rotation value regardless of whether it is flown on X days or LC days. When the company sends a rotation for GS they are accepting the fact they are going to pay premium pay. The company shouldn’t get a discount on that when a RES picks it up part/all on LC days. PB days still would only be due for violated X days.
3. Reserves should be able to convert golden X days back to regular X days at any point at their own discretion.
4. Reserves should have more X day move flexibility as long as the X-99-X rules are maintained. In other words they should be able to move days from the middle of blocks, not just the end, and be able to create new X day blocks with a move.
1. Rotation guarantee paid for NOOP’d GS/IA, just like REG pilots
2. A RES who gets a GS/IA should get single pay, no credit for the entire rotation value regardless of whether it is flown on X days or LC days. When the company sends a rotation for GS they are accepting the fact they are going to pay premium pay. The company shouldn’t get a discount on that when a RES picks it up part/all on LC days. PB days still would only be due for violated X days.
3. Reserves should be able to convert golden X days back to regular X days at any point at their own discretion.
4. Reserves should have more X day move flexibility as long as the X-99-X rules are maintained. In other words they should be able to move days from the middle of blocks, not just the end, and be able to create new X day blocks with a move.
The rest, meh, might be a bridge too far, but we'll see what the MEC & NC think about as I'm sure many put stuff like your 1-3 in their contract surveys. I want decent increase in pay rates. I want NB pay banding. I'd like to see negotiating capital spent there more so than some minor-ish improvements to reserve rules (#4 though, that's one that needs to get done this time around).
10-04-2025 | 10:57 AM
#9964
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
Totally agree with your #4 there. Never understood why this wasn't done already. I put that in my contract survey too BTW.
The rest, meh, might be a bridge too far, but we'll see what the MEC & NC think about as I'm sure many put stuff like your 1-3 in their contract surveys. I want decent increase in pay rates. I want NB pay banding. I'd like to see negotiating capital spent there more so than some minor-ish improvements to reserve rules (#4 though, that's one that needs to get done this time around).
The rest, meh, might be a bridge too far, but we'll see what the MEC & NC think about as I'm sure many put stuff like your 1-3 in their contract surveys. I want decent increase in pay rates. I want NB pay banding. I'd like to see negotiating capital spent there more so than some minor-ish improvements to reserve rules (#4 though, that's one that needs to get done this time around).
10-04-2025 | 11:34 AM
#9965
On Reserve
Joined: Mar 2024
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I’m pretty much 85% fine with the reserve rules as-is and I’m a junior A. I actually think I get better flying on reserve than I would as a junior line holder looking at the awards compared to my schedule.
My point about SC lines is that it would allow pilots who specifically want that to be able to bid for it. Many pilots I know just try to hit ALV+15 every month. A SC line that paid ALV+15 would be a fairly straight-forward way to do that for anyone desiring to do so, and they could hit ALV+15 without working their tail off.
Otherwise, the idea of paying SCs more is one that I like. A SC paying 3 hours AND counting towards 5:15 credit/filling up would be huge.
My point about SC lines is that it would allow pilots who specifically want that to be able to bid for it. Many pilots I know just try to hit ALV+15 every month. A SC line that paid ALV+15 would be a fairly straight-forward way to do that for anyone desiring to do so, and they could hit ALV+15 without working their tail off.
Otherwise, the idea of paying SCs more is one that I like. A SC paying 3 hours AND counting towards 5:15 credit/filling up would be huge.
10-04-2025 | 12:23 PM
#9966
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Some of this has been discussed but a few more key things to improves on reserve:
1. Rotation guarantee paid for NOOP’d GS/IA, just like REG pilots
2. A RES who gets a GS/IA should get single pay, no credit for the entire rotation value regardless of whether it is flown on X days or LC days. When the company sends a rotation for GS they are accepting the fact they are going to pay premium pay. The company shouldn’t get a discount on that when a RES picks it up part/all on LC days. PB days still would only be due for violated X days.
3. Reserves should be able to convert golden X days back to regular X days at any point at their own discretion.
4. Reserves should have more X day move flexibility as long as the X-99-X rules are maintained. In other words they should be able to move days from the middle of blocks, not just the end, and be able to create new X day blocks with a move.
1. Rotation guarantee paid for NOOP’d GS/IA, just like REG pilots
2. A RES who gets a GS/IA should get single pay, no credit for the entire rotation value regardless of whether it is flown on X days or LC days. When the company sends a rotation for GS they are accepting the fact they are going to pay premium pay. The company shouldn’t get a discount on that when a RES picks it up part/all on LC days. PB days still would only be due for violated X days.
3. Reserves should be able to convert golden X days back to regular X days at any point at their own discretion.
4. Reserves should have more X day move flexibility as long as the X-99-X rules are maintained. In other words they should be able to move days from the middle of blocks, not just the end, and be able to create new X day blocks with a move.
AA has #2, I believe. Totally agree with all of it.
10-04-2025 | 01:00 PM
#9967
Line Holder
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All of this. “Establish Reserve Rotation Guarantee” is in the Green Book, I am told. It’s been on my ‘list’ for a looong time. As someone who has lost several Res GS and gotten zip for it. It’s total BS, and a huge give to the company.
AA has #2, I believe. Totally agree with all of it.
AA has #2, I believe. Totally agree with all of it.
10-04-2025 | 01:08 PM
#9968
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How do you see it as huge? Sick on reserve days is extremely miniscule in the grand scheme of things and I can't imagine it would save all that much sick leave for a given pilot throughout the year. It would be a much greater benefit if we had the accumulation model of 60 hours/year. But given that we quickly get 200+ hours of sick leave that resets ever year, it seems like it would be wasted capital. Not trying to be argumentative, just trying to see why it would be so huge.
10-04-2025 | 01:27 PM
#9969
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10-04-2025 | 02:10 PM
#9970
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Big ones
what if we just start small and allow sc swap/pickups via a swap board. We could see who ACTUALLY wants to sit more short calls before offering entire monthly lines of it. I also wonder how we would get the company to pay more for short calls? Would we have to find it by reducing other work rules? No thanks. I agree with other posts here that we have bigger fish to fry before giving away more short calls.
also fwiw the very sr who bid rsv are flying more lines nowadays and citing qol as the reason. At least that’s what I hear when we talk shop on the jet. Fwiw
also fwiw the very sr who bid rsv are flying more lines nowadays and citing qol as the reason. At least that’s what I hear when we talk shop on the jet. Fwiw
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