I honestly don't think the 4th floor cares about this one way or the other.

They'll be a pre-packaged, focus tested, corporate-speak release when the results come in.

Then crickets until/unless the mediator ever releases the parties to seek self help.

Any way we can shoot to get release in Jan or Feb? I just don’t want to de-ice this much this year.

Haha, good plan. But honestly we should move as aggressively as possible to get released. I think it's the only way to show the company and the public that we're serious about striking.

Calling the vote seems like a formality in the negotiating process. Can anyone give a reason to vote not in favor for the strike authorization?

Voting in favor = “duh, of course I want a new contract”

Voting NOT in favor = “ … ” ???

Voting NOT in favor = "I trust management more than my own union and I'm happy with the way things are."

Sadly I am bracing for an underwhelming performance too. The last vote I was apart of was the Pinnacle vote (86% turn out, 99% yes). Our current pilot group on the whole isn’t as angry as the Pinnacle pilots were, and it’s not close.

At the time that was the highest strike authorization in alpa history.

Im a new guy. In a couple hundred hours on the line I am having a blast. I have also only met one (jump seater) who I even remotely think voted No. I can’t speak to the other FOs, but I bet you see a lot more Alpa lanyards if the vote goes well.

Delta has led the way for a lot of years. The grass isn't objectively greener elsewhere unless you believe corporate spin. I am not going to throw spears at anyone but delta is by far the least screwed up passenger carrier.

Vote yes with support, guys. Ill help out as soon as I am off probation.

Hopefully all delta pilots received the robocall from our negotiating chairman today. As I pointed out last week, the numbers of pilots who have voted aren’t good. He is almost begging people to vote. Apathy is going to destroy us in our negotiations.

Same here. Rerouted recently into flying with a few PTC guys within 5 years of retirement. Hats on, clean white Delta lanyards. They seemed offended when I asked if they were standards guys. Wouldn't say which way they voted, but that was an easy guess.

I've literally never met a PTC type that has been shy sharing hot takes. For them to not share their vote is incredibly telling.

They don’t want their neighbors to know the voted against mama D.

I ask again? Have you seen the participation numbers? You are making a lot of assumptions.


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I don't live in PTC, but my peer group is something else. They are still upset over the loss of pension they VOTED for almost 20 years ago. They therefore don't want to help the generation behind them move forward. A very selfish group from the rocking chair club. Hired by a shrink who killed himself. White Force... I could go on and on. If there is anything less than 95% participation or actual no votes, it'll be centered on this group.

Fire away.

Your solution?


And fwiw, I voted to strike.

It’s interesting, here in Seattle we have a contingent of guys who were previously PTC or the like. For the most part they were disgusted with the group think that occurs down there. Guess that’s part of the reason they pulled roots and headed north.

I’m thinking the latest news from our regional partner might change a few minds, maybe even a few original Deltoids from PTC.

How long after the close of the vote on Monday should we expect to know the results?

tell your friends

Y’all ripping on PTC but I don’t know anyone here who hasn’t voted Yes. I’m sure they’re out there somewhere, just not in my social bubble.

Minutes. Hours at most.

I think we’ll hit the 95/95 threshold to be a meaningful presence at the table. But we need every single eligible pilot to vote. Keep pestering everyone you fly with.

proof the PTC mafia still runs ATL

Usually it’s pretty quick turn. If I remember correctly from previous electronic votes, we’ll know in less than an hour.

Huh? :confused:

I guess it’s more fun to hate on DAL and ATL and PTC than NWA and MSP and Eden Prarie/Edina because nobody cares about NWA and MSP, now or ever.

Even if ev re thing they did was better.

The amount you hate Northwest is hilarious 😂

Laughter is the best medicine, right?

Just trying to provide some balance.

There is help available, just have to ask.

Not a member of the South Atlanta Mafia, but some of y’all forget that each base has its share of douchebags

I get that, I’ve got plenty of buddies down there. It’s just easy to give you guys a hard time:)

That’s nonsense. Have you actually met Dan Philips?

Amen.

Filler

I voted NO on the strike. I have too few years to go and can't risk anything at this point. Screw you younger guys who are shooting for the moon; I'll just keep sucking up green slips for a pay increase.

Just *******ing with you!

Hell yea I'll strike.

BD

Delta pilots who live in PTC are overwhelmingly in support of a strike.

I propose all hat wearers and no voters be subject to work under the current pay rates for the rest of their careers.

Come november it’s gonna be “boat coats off for a new contract.”

I’m ready to embrace the northface life

Just No.......

Maybe we can get Kenny Chesney to sing "no hats, no coats, if no contract." I'm sure Delta is sweating the fact that we don’t wear our hats so they can save $2B a year by dragging their feet. It’s my opinion (you know what they say about those) that the company is hoping that a short-term recession (I’m sorry, transitory fiscal impact) will start affecting the airline industry so as to improve their bargaining position. We’ve been there, done that. 33 1/2 % followed by a 14% pay cut plus work rules, insurance etc. dug us into a hole that we are still neck deep in. The sad part is that we did that so that the company could possibly avoid bankruptcy. How did that work out for us? Oh yea, we got to give up our retirement in bankruptcy.

Now is the time my friends. I believe in 2000 a 777 CA was making about $300/hr and $1 in 2000 is worth about $1.72 now. A 350 CA tops out at $353 today and would require $516 in today’s dollars, or a 45% increase, just to bring us up to the standard of living in 2000. I say we make this very easy for the Delta management and say we JUST want C2K adjusted for inflation.

VOTE YES on the strike ballot.
BD

Me too. With lime green ties

My tie is ready.. If I'll requal and fly before we have a new contract is the question.