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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3520671)
At what point will you decide the grand slam strategy is not working? When we are talking about missing two contract cycles? I thought a modest 8,4,4 contract with a 18% DC and modest work rule improvements on time would have been a good deal for the pilot group. My ask would have been a bit higher had I known the inflation numbers. To bridge that gap as you state if this contract is 3 years long we are going to need around 40% total increases over the 3 years. Have you seen the results for other airlines so far? When do you see us getting that contract?
If the union believes the ask was correct we are going to need to start retro pay as of 31 Jan 19 at over 20%? Do you see that happening? But no, I do not see the DOS % being Retro back to 1/1/20. But I do expect at LEAST inflation adjusted Retro back to 1/1/20.
Originally Posted by tunes
(Post 3520673)
Tell me you haven't seen the polling without telling me you haven't seen the polling
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
(Post 3520756)
What is the other option? Doing what United did and settling for a new suit case? How is that working for them? I'd rather be where we are than where they are.
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Originally Posted by Softheborder
(Post 3520725)
I fear the delusional wish lists & demands will get us parked and the soonest we see a contract will be 2025 or 26…,after a few more 1000 retire. By that time retro is history and we’ll get a signing bonus which cuts out the retirees altogether.
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Originally Posted by Softheborder
(Post 3520725)
I fear the delusional wish lists & demands will get us parked and the soonest we see a contract will be 2025 or 26…,after a few more 1000 retire. By that time retro is history and we’ll get a signing bonus which cuts out the retirees altogether.
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I’m really enjoying the unity displayed here. :rolleyes:
The MEC provides direction based off the majority’s responses to polling. Seems some who don’t agree with the way it’s being handled would rather dig a hole underneath our negotiators than show support. Part of the requested “adult” leadership is understanding it isn’t always about you and you aren’t always right. Be a team player and support your union, they're the one’s negotiating our contract. |
Originally Posted by Iceberg
(Post 3520841)
I’m really enjoying the unity displayed here. :rolleyes:
The MEC provides direction based off the majority’s responses to polling. Seems some who don’t agree with the way it’s being handled would rather dig a hole underneath our negotiators than show support. Part of the requested “adult” leadership is understanding it isn’t always about you and you aren’t always right. Be a team player and support your union, they're the one’s negotiating our contract. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3520746)
Its working so well for us isn’t it!
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Originally Posted by Boatbuilder
(Post 3520837)
Company plant.
Have our results changed??? |
Originally Posted by Softheborder
(Post 3520930)
Pound Sand. You don’t know me. I’m as far away from a Company plant as you can get. A realist yes, delusional no. Demanding what we perceive ourselves to be worth in 2019 cost us an entire contract cycle. We are well on the way to being parked. What did Einstein say about insanity & doing the same thing over & over???
Have our results changed??? |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 3520869)
I imagine we’ll know in 3-6 months.
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